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[Re: Connie Sutherland ]
#193281 - 05/03/2008 05:09 PM |
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We came up with 1.7 pounds when we did his ideal body weight which is 85 pounds (that's how much his father weighs). We did 2% and came up with 1.7 pounds which we divide into three meals. Since the breeder said approximately 12 pounds and he won't have his first vet visit until later next week we just decided since we didn't have an exact weight to do the ideal adult weight. Should we not do that and do his exact weight? And if so can I take him to the vet to weigh him without making an appointment and paying a fee?
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Re: feeding 8 week puppy raw
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#193282 - 05/03/2008 05:16 PM |
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Well, 85 pounds is heavier than most, right? And that method with that number comes out to be way more than 5-10% of his weight. So at least I would not be at all concerned that he's not finishing that amount of food. I'd probably go with a little under a pound instead and see how he does. I feel certain that for now, that will be a good estimate, and the puppy people will log on and answer too.
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Re: feeding 8 week puppy raw
[Re: Connie Sutherland ]
#193284 - 05/03/2008 05:37 PM |
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Well, 85 pounds is heavier than most, right?
Well, I don't know. Ed says the range for a male GSD is 75-90 pounds. Since he's father is 85 we just perhaps wrongly assumed he would be 85 pounds also but since he's not eating all the food we'll follow your advice and feed him under a pound and see how it goes. Another question. For his lunch meal I took him out 20 minutes after he ate and he didn't poop. Is that okay? My family and I are really having a ball because we have all of our notes and info from the videos and forums trying to do exactly what Ed says. I'm sure we're making mistakes but we're having fun. 
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Re: feeding 8 week puppy raw
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#193285 - 05/03/2008 05:42 PM |
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... For his lunch meal I took him out 20 minutes after he ate and he didn't poop. Is that okay? My family and I are really having a ball because we have all of our notes and info from the videos and forums trying to do exactly what Ed says. I'm sure we're making mistakes but we're having fun.
Dogs (and I imagine puppies too) vary quite a bit in pooping frequency. You just got him, right, and he has pooped since you brought him home? So that sounds good to me.  That's good that you are taking him out a lot to form the outdoor potty habit.
I betcha you ARE having fun!
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Re: feeding 8 week puppy raw
[Re: Connie Sutherland ]
#193288 - 05/03/2008 05:46 PM |
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I prefer to avoid feeding any poultry to puppies who are stressed or sick (going to a new home, vaccinations, etc) because of campylobacter which can mimic parvo.
I didn't know that. So do you give low-fat ground beef for the first meal? (I think that dogs coming new to a raw diet have often been eating a lower-fat diet than what dogs really do best on, but I add it gradually, like organs.)
My pups now are conceived on raw, at about 2-3 weeks they start sucking on the hunks I give mom (average fat content) then I start them on ground ruminant (goat, sheep, cow) or pork and about weening time I start to increase the fat.
Connie, the chicken you buy sounds great, but having experienced some Campy in pups I'm gun shy and I would still only feed very small amounts very rarely. I won't ever feed the regular store birds (chicken or turkey) to young pups. I'll rather be paranoid than have dead pups.
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#193289 - 05/03/2008 05:47 PM |
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... since he's not eating all the food we'll follow your advice and feed him under a pound and see how it goes.
OK, I looked it up, and now I feel pretty confident even though this is a puppy and I have never had one. If you look here: http://leerburg.com/feedingarawdiet.htm#howmuch
... you will see that Cindy, who IS extremely experienced with puppies, follows that 5-10% of present body weight calculation.
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Re: feeding 8 week puppy raw
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#193292 - 05/03/2008 05:51 PM |
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then I start them on ground ruminant (goat, sheep, cow) or pork and about weening time I start to increase the fat. ...
And how about lamb, which is also readily available (and at least where I shop, something called "lamb flaps" is cheap)?
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[Re: Connie Sutherland ]
#193297 - 05/03/2008 06:19 PM |
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My sister was thinking the 5-10% of his actual weight makes more sense but with a growing puppy we would have to weigh him every week. I'm going to call the vet Monday and see if they charge just to weigh the puppy. My limited experience with vets is that they charge for everything...but we'll see.
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Connie, the chicken you buy sounds great, but having experienced some Campy in pups I'm gun shy and I would still only feed very small amounts very rarely. I won't ever feed the regular store birds (chicken or turkey) to young pups. I'll rather be paranoid than have dead pups.
What do I do then? I saw that Ed and Cindy feeds poultry to their puppies. Should I not? I don't want a dead puppy. This information seems conflicting to what I've read.
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Connie, the chicken you buy sounds great, but having experienced some Campy in pups I'm gun shy and I would still only feed very small amounts very rarely. I won't ever feed the regular store birds (chicken or turkey) to young pups. I'll rather be paranoid than have dead pups.
What do I do then? I saw that Ed and Cindy feeds poultry to their puppies. Should I not? I don't want a dead puppy. This information seems conflicting to what I've read.
I can only tell you what I personally know from my own experience and research.
I do start with poultry, and I buy Smart Chicken brand. As I mentioned before, even if the long-range cost is prohibitive, short-term probably isn't.
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