I did hear about this group and have not gotten around to contacting them. They are about 45-60 minutes away which isn't bad.I am only looking to train, not join, at least at this time.I am going to contact them after my agility class ends in February. Not enough hours in the day. It's a shame we have to work!
I did find a link to an excellent training course in October though. However, I have to choose one course (for financial reasons, we are building our kennel)and from what I understand, Randy Hare is the best
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I’m jumping in on this real late and I apologize. I think too much emphasis is being placed on the response (sit vs. scratch) and not enough is being placed on learning to read the alert itself.
When I say alert, I’m referring to the physical changes you see in the dog that tells you that he has located substance odor… the head hook… the breathing changes....etc. The trained response ends up being the crutch… the thing that gets us in trouble.
When a person is working actual situations, training when the handler does not know if or where targets are planted, the "head hook", "breathing change" etc are nothing more than changes of behavior. All the handler knows is something got the dogs attention. While it is certainly necessary to recognize these changes of behavior, it is the final response that tells identifies the target.
DFrost
Absolutely. A behavior change only tells me that the area needs to be detailed better after the initial search is done. When I say detailed I mean that the dog is allowed to go over that area only once more and no lolly gagging around which might make the dog alert. If he doesn't alert after the second pass then it's a done deal.
That is exactly what happened on my one false alert during certification testing. I was overdetailed an area where there was a reasonable body language change; just read to much into it. After about 5 passes and microdetailing on my part he decided there must be something to it and sat.
LOL Nancy, I know where you are coming from...I did that with Jesea on my first basic test....lesson learned BIGTIME!!!
I overworked the boat problem too (the evaluator about threw me out of the boat), but we got closer to source than any other team and worked out of a secondary scent pool that two others called as source. Of course the diffulity with boats is the dog is relying on the handler to get the driver to position the boat optimally and that can be clumsy..........of course it was a pretty clear signal when he went off the bow and ran to the back of the boat as we passed over it the last time.
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Geez, someday you and Howard are going to have to explain to me the feeling one gets when they make a mistake in dog training. I've heard of people doing. OHHHHHHHH Lord it's hard to be humble...........
DFrost
PS Who was it that said something to the effect; Experience is what you get, right after you needed it.
Any behavior that is reinforced is more likely to occur again.
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Well sure if you want to get serious, and just between you and me, I may have made a mistake or two with dogs in my career. Just don't tell anyone I admit to it.
DFrost
Any behavior that is reinforced is more likely to occur again.
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