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[Re: asit kumar bhattacharya ]
#392301 - 07/15/2014 08:34 AM |
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It's understandable where you're a bit confused Asit. You've asked for help on what you feel is "out of the blue" nipping. You felt you had a dominant/aggressive dog and you corrected her in a way that you believed was the right thing to do.
We have gone on to tell you that you don't have a D/A dog and it's your training and leadership that have caused this. Understanding the cause will go a long way in eliminating the effects of what you are experiencing.
It may seem like a different issue and that it's taken off on a different track but it is the help you are looking for.
In order for the dog to change, you need to understand what needs changing. You can't go on doing things like you've always done them. Not with this girl. Your change will create the change in her you're looking for.
Good for you for bringing this to light and sticking with it. You are in the right place. 
And back to Kristin, something about settings on facebook.
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Re: handler panic
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#392303 - 07/15/2014 08:45 AM |
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IMO, I would back off any type of training with this dog. No pressure of any kind. I would manage the dog on a flat collar and just mark / reward good behaviors, ignoring or managing any bad behavior by removing the dog with no corrections.
Treat this dog like it is a new puppy that you know you don't have to show who is boss. It already knows. Don't expect anything of the dog at all. Just be with it. Have fun. Mark and reward good behaviors but don't ask for anything. Let the dog develop some faith in you.
When the dog starts approaching you like it does your parents, you might then think about asking things of the dog.
Let the dog be your partner, not your slave. You will both benefit from that type of relationship. I think you should feel guilty anytime she appears fearful. It will help keep your mindset in the proper place. Feel bad when she does, and do what you can to alleviate that stress.
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Re: handler panic
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#392304 - 07/15/2014 10:38 AM |
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^like^. That's what I was getting at earlier.
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Re: handler panic
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#392305 - 07/15/2014 01:40 PM |
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IMO, I would back off any type of training with this dog. No pressure of any kind. I would manage the dog on a flat collar and just mark / reward good behaviors, ignoring or managing any bad behavior by removing the dog with no corrections.
Treat this dog like it is a new puppy that you know you don't have to show who is boss. It already knows. Don't expect anything of the dog at all. Just be with it. Have fun. Mark and reward good behaviors but don't ask for anything. Let the dog develop some faith in you.
When the dog starts approaching you like it does your parents, you might then think about asking things of the dog.
Let the dog be your partner, not your slave. You will both benefit from that type of relationship. I think you should feel guilty anytime she appears fearful. It will help keep your mindset in the proper place. Feel bad when she does, and do what you can to alleviate that stress.
^LOVE^ -- David Winners has a real knack for putting into words what we have all been trying to communicate to the OP on this thread ... THANKS, DW
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Re: handler panic
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#392306 - 07/15/2014 01:51 PM |
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Agreed, David.
A good trainer knows that there are times when starting over is the only good way to go .... that there is no "quick fix."
And in particular, there is never a "quick fix" for having a dog who is now afraid of you.
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IMO, I would back off any type of training with this dog. No pressure of any kind. I would manage the dog on a flat collar and just mark / reward good behaviors, ignoring or managing any bad behavior by removing the dog with no corrections.
Treat this dog like it is a new puppy that you know you don't have to show who is boss. It already knows. Don't expect anything of the dog at all. Just be with it. Have fun. Mark and reward good behaviors but don't ask for anything. Let the dog develop some faith in you.
When the dog starts approaching you like it does your parents, you might then think about asking things of the dog.
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It will be good to provide some of your past obedience training videos with this dog.
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Re: handler panic
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#392314 - 07/16/2014 12:42 PM |
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should i send the youtube link??i could upload those vids on you tube too if you want
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Re: handler panic
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#392320 - 07/16/2014 01:26 PM |
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Actual video of past training sessions with the dog in the O.P.? You understand we mean you training, not just filming a dog doing something.
Sure, youtube links are fine.
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Re: handler panic
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#392321 - 07/16/2014 01:27 PM |
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And I sure hope you are taking this to heart:
IMO, I would back off any type of training with this dog. No pressure of any kind. I would manage the dog on a flat collar and just mark / reward good behaviors, ignoring or managing any bad behavior by removing the dog with no corrections.
Treat this dog like it is a new puppy that you know you don't have to show who is boss. It already knows. Don't expect anything of the dog at all. Just be with it. Have fun. Mark and reward good behaviors but don't ask for anything. Let the dog develop some faith in you.
When the dog starts approaching you like it does your parents, you might then think about asking things of the dog.
Let the dog be your partner, not your slave. You will both benefit from that type of relationship. I think you should feel guilty anytime she appears fearful. It will help keep your mindset in the proper place. Feel bad when she does, and do what you can to alleviate that stress. |
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#392322 - 07/16/2014 01:33 PM |
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Re: handler panic
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#392346 - 07/16/2014 11:57 PM |
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Just a bit of critique on the videos.
With the tug work PLEASE don't work the dog up and down like that. It can be quite damaging to the dog's neck. Side to side only.
The heeling
The dog loses concentration to easily. Get the heeling correct before you start adding turns. Keeping in correct heel position will be impossible with all the direction changes and loss of focus if a straight line isn't solid first.
The water retrieve.
The dog does it correctly but it's seems the enthusiasm is not there. It looks like it does the retrieve because it has no choice.
The retrieve should be one of the most rewarding behaviors a dog can do with it's handler.
Your work is passable but we would LOVE seeing the dog having fun in stead of just doing it because it has to.
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