Nora Ferrell wrote 04/04/2009 01:49 PM Re: Help! Hair loss [Re: Jennifer Lee ] #234793 - 04/04/2009 01:49 PM
Nora Ferrell Webboard User Reg: 02-10-2008 Posts: 727 Loc: Kentucky Offline	I can try the ground chicken and hamburger but she has that as a regular part of her diet sometimes. When she first started raw, she ate almost anything that didn't resemble kibble, but she has honed her culinary tastes since then. The left over meatloaf should have been the jackpot. However, she just had a formed poop, so maybe it was the extra yogurt last night. I have to disguise the yogurt, too (left over steak). Hopefully, she will be ok but this is going to be a long time on antibiotics and I know how they do me, too. Thanks. Edited by Nora Ferrell (04/04/2009 01:50 PM) Edit reason: I should proof read.
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Jo Harker wrote 04/04/2009 01:56 PM Re: Help! Hair loss [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #234795 - 04/04/2009 01:56 PM
Jo Harker Webboard User Reg: 10-24-2008 Posts: 921 Loc: Indiana Offline	Glad you checked the posts and saw this! I will need to update the vets on the "contraindications" for applesauce. Thanks for the clarity. I understand now that applesauce isn't as superior as pumpkin and as for the sugar...itchy dog, less sugar the better. Nora, Jennifer's idea sounds great! Steak tartar with pumpkin! Maybe little meatballs with pumpkin in the center? Look! I DO fit in the bag.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 04/04/2009 02:18 PM Re: Help! Hair loss [Re: Jo Harker ] #234797 - 04/04/2009 02:18 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: jo harker ...itchy dog, less sugar the better. .... Well, my POV was more "diarrhea dog, less sugar the better," as well as "dog in general, less sugar the better." I am surprised about the dog's aversion to pumpkin, because that would be a first in my experience. LOL I generally find that dogs love it. I am back and will double-check the applesauce v. pumpkin sugar thing (both unsweetened, of course).
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Connie Sutherland wrote 04/04/2009 02:19 PM Re: Help! Hair loss [Re: Jo Harker ] #234798 - 04/04/2009 02:19 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: Jo Harker Steak tartar with pumpkin! ...
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Connie Sutherland wrote 04/04/2009 02:24 PM Re: Help! Hair loss [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #234799 - 04/04/2009 02:24 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	BTW, Nora, amoxicillin (part of Clavamox) is a very common diarrhea-trigger in dogs, I see in two different vet-handbook sources. About the probiotics: as someone else noted earlier, you want to give the probiotics in a protocol that avoids killing them off with the antibiotic as you administer them. So the in-between timing sounds good to me too. Also, I like to give probiotics first thing in the morning when stomach acid production is usually at its lowest (before the first food is eaten), in the hope that this increases the chances of the probiotics to make it past the stomach to where we want them, in the intestine. Edited by Connie Sutherland (04/04/2009 02:45 PM) Edit reason: add info
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Connie Sutherland wrote 04/04/2009 02:43 PM Re: Help! Hair loss [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #234801 - 04/04/2009 02:43 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	OK, yes, I get over 10 grams of sugar (total combined sugars) to 100 grams of no-added-sugar applesauce, and 4 grams for plain pumpkin. Oddly, I found no source that listed both. LOL I did find each one listed on different nutrition info sites.
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Jo Harker wrote 04/04/2009 03:32 PM Re: Help! Hair loss [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #234805 - 04/04/2009 03:32 PM
Jo Harker Webboard User Reg: 10-24-2008 Posts: 921 Loc: Indiana Offline	Ahhh...Europeans use dried blueberry tea to alleviate diarrhea. Would that be an appropriate alternative? I am not sure how it works, I just know it works for me. It can only be dried though, not fresh. Maybe Nora's little dog could try the berries? Look! I DO fit in the bag.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 04/04/2009 04:20 PM Re: Help! Hair loss [Re: Jo Harker ] #234807 - 04/04/2009 04:20 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: Jo Harker Ahhh...Europeans use dried blueberry tea to alleviate diarrhea. Would that be an appropriate alternative? I am not sure how it works, I just know it works for me. It can only be dried though, not fresh. Maybe Nora's little dog could try the berries? I have seen that but have no experience. A book called Herbs of Choice talks about their apparently helpful astringent tannins as well as the same soluble fiber (pectin) that apples have. But I don't know anything more than that.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 04/04/2009 04:25 PM Re: Help! Hair loss [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #234808 - 04/04/2009 04:25 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Here is that book: http://www.amazon.com/Tylers-Herbs-Choice-Therapeutic-Phytomedicinals/dp/0789001594
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Jennifer Lee wrote 04/04/2009 04:28 PM Re: Help! Hair loss [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #234809 - 04/04/2009 04:28 PM
Jennifer Lee Webboard User Reg: 12-16-2007 Posts: 2851 Loc: oklahoma Offline	I never knew about the blueberry tea, I will have to ask my english grandmother about that, I know she drinks some sort of awful ginger/something concoction when she has stomach problems. I have never met a dog who didn't love yogurt, and all of mine love the pumpkin too. It is amusing how picky some of them can be. And I certainly have never ever made my dogs chicken and pumpkin frozen yogurt in the ice cream maker in the summer!!
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