mj was not perfectly balanced, i dont' think we said that.

he was quite unbalanced,and also a world famous performer, kookie, but someone who also gave a lot to the world. he can be both.
we trashed his life, we will never forget the allegations.
doesn't mean he doesn't deserve to be recognized and celebrated for the good he did too.

Yes he did some stupid things and many times showed poor judgement (baby dangling). Is there anyone who hasn't exercize poor judgement or done dumb things at some point between pre-teen through adulthood? All of you who have judged him based upon speculation and sensationalism, I wonder if you were famous and wealthy, and lived under a microscope, exactly how perfect you would appear to the world, or if there isn't something in your closet that while not criminal, could be misconstrued or twisted by someone with an agenda, to look far worse than it actually was?

MJ may have had his own crosses to bear (ref his skin and facial makeovers) but whats up with his step kids being forced to have their faces covered in public (or private?)with all kinds of weird objects. THATS real healthy. Nothing like superimposing your own demons onto innocent children. Maybe he didn't molest young children, but he sure made life weird for them. Hopefully they turn out OK.

I work in a Maximum security prison and I will add that most child molesters molest several children before they are finally convicted of the crime.
Even with being arrested for child molestation and even convictions, people still let their children hang out with the molester.
It is always amazing to me how people still stand up for them and somehow blame the victims. The only one to blame is the molester himself. It is also amazing to me how many elderly men come in and they have molested children their entire life and finally got convicted.
As far as these "stars" sticking up for him, mothers of molested children by a step parent or mothers BF stand up for the molesteres many times, when it was their own children that was molested. So that these "stars" stand up for him, means nothing.
I would never let my child hang out with someone that acted as strange as he did even if he didn't sleep with boys, so it makes me wonder about anyone that would. I think that many people have done stupid things that they wish they hadn't, however, I don't see that many would dangle their child from any window, and he wasn't a teen at the time, he was a father. Also, if someone posted a person dangling a puppy from a window everyone on this forum would be screaming, so why would anyone take up for him, even on that one action?

And Claire,
Might I add.
I'll bet a 1,000 to 1 the few that are convicted still claim they are the innocent victims.

Hey, didn't you know that noone in prison is guilty. They just "caught a case"

I agree with Susan. Michael was "teased" by his father and siblings as a child for his "big" nose and Gawd only knows what else. The trauma that does to a person can only be known by ones who suffer through it. I did! My father used to "tease" me "you have a saddle ass" Your ass must be so big form being in the saddle all day". I am almost 44 yo and those words affect me to this day. i have grown up hating my my body and being embarrased by it. The only differance between me and Michael? he had the money to "fix" what he felt was wrong with his body. I don't. I have to live with it. Agree or not with what he did to himself it can all be rooted to his childhood (or lack there of). Michael was a musical genius who wote wonderful songs, many with deep meaning. He made the Guiness Book of World records for the most charities supported by a pop star. In life no one focused on that, only what people percived as strange or weird. I feel for the troops and the people who risk their lives every day too. i think the difference here is Michael was known by everyone everywhere. people grew up with him. Sadly the people fighting in the middle east are known only by their families and friends. Not that that makes them any less of a loss if they should die in serivce, just that they are not known on such a grand scale as Michael was. I feel for the kids too and hopefully the family is shielding them from all the news coverage on their dad. They need to grieve and heal. Hopefuly this all will pass soon and life will return to "normal".

It's not official, but I understand MJ world tour is cancelled. I hear he's decided to play catch with Steve McNair.

DFrost

Why is a thread about Michael Jackson in the general dog discussion category?

Come on people...you'd expect your dog to follow the rules and commands. Let's keep the integrity intact of "General Dog Conversation" and talk ABOUT our DOGS.

Bad Mr. Frawley....OUT!
(no treats for you)

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You're kidding me, right?
Just because someone isn't found guilty of something in a court of law does not mean they definately, absolutely did not commit the crime in question. There are too many reasons to name as to why a person could do something of a criminal nature and NOT be found guilty in a court of law.

It happens EVERY SINGLE DAY!

wow, using your logic, lets just do away with pesky & expensive trials and jurors, after all, if someone was arrested well then, by god they must be guilty, because police and prosecutors are infallible, so whatever they say goes. They NEVER make mistakes, right? Martin Tankleff really was guilty, right? Or if not that, let's just brand a scarlet letter on the forehead of everyone arrested, doesn't matter if they are guilty or not.

First off, quote my post fine, but quote it without re-arranging what i said or omitting sentence's.
my original post was this

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You're kidding me, right?
are you saying even if he did molest children, so what????

and secondly i don't see at all where i said anything about doing away with trials & court proceedings or that I felt they were a waste of time and that all their decisions are incorrect.
I said that every single day in courts of law people are let go or found not guilty who did commit crimes and vice versa.
Can anyone honestly believe that every single decision made in a court of law is the absolute right decision?
So OJ was innocent? (i know everyone keeps going back to that, but it's the most popular court decision i know of that shows the courts are not ALWAYS right in their decisions.)
I would love to see a precentage of people found Not Guilty of some sort of sex crime who end up back in court for the exact same thing a short time later.
Sorry, but im of the opinion that just becuase it's written that someone is not found guilty of something, doesn't necessarily mean they didn't commit the crime.