I just wanted to say that I have a terrible habit of writing essays instead of forum posts, so I'm assuming that most of mine get skipped as well. :P

Yuko: Well, I'd imagine enforcement for the fences would fall into the jurisdiction of whoever does your code enforcement. In small towns like the town I live into - that's no one... completely rewired my house, and no one wants to inspect my work because there's no code enforcement here. So in communities like mine, no one would enforce the fence standards either.

But, if the laws were on the books, eventually people will kick up enough of a stink to warrant the area getting someone to enforce it - the town to the south east of us now has code enforcement because someone buried an electrical cable 6" in the ground, a dog dug it up, which wound up in someone getting electrocuted and killed. Also, I don't really think enforcing a "dog fence code" would be any different or more difficult than enforcing any other building or residential code.

I just really wish people would stop proposing knee-jerk "solutions" to the tools of what are essentially social problems. If you got rid of the derelict people who are the pit (et cetera) owners behind most of these attacks, there would be no problem breeds.

Anyone that trains a PB to be aggressive towards people is a person to be afraid of, and I mean for purposes unrelated to police work, or competition. So many people confuse training a dog for a competition in a sport like Shutzhund with making a dog mean, that is John Q Public. They do not understand the obediance involved to be successful in this sport. So I would even open my aperture to any person that trains a powerful dog to be aggressive towards people is a person to be afraid of. It is apparent that PBs are very often the choice of very foolish, and in this case dangerous people..and there is the problem.

As far as bite strength and this is just my personal observation from research, PBs bite differently than a GSD. PBs will bite and just hold, but a GSD will bite, and then bite harder if he is trying to hold on. So if you were to measure the strength of a strong bite for a PB I would think the initial bite will be the strongest, but if you were to measure the bite of a GSD or Mal I would shake it up a little then measure the bite strength because the ending force I would guess would be stronger. I could be all wrong...but that is what I have peiced together from the things I have read. Would make a very interesting experiment....can you imagine the advertisement for a decoy for this???? YIKES, don't know how you decoys do what you do...OUCH!!!!

Jamie, I'm NOT posting this in reply to your post, just posting behind you.

Ok, it's nice to go back to the topic on this thread, but not if it's to try to silence someone. Ed can delete my post or close this thread, but I'm posting cause I am tired of America bashing. Many countries delight in doing that. And when it comes to attacking the Constitution of the US, a country who has helped and still is helping almost every other country in the world with money and many countries past and present with the sacrificial lives of hundreds upon hundreds of thousands of our soldiers, I can't sit still or keep my fool mouth shut. As Red Thomas' sig tag says "No act of kindness goes unavenged."

We're called arrogant? Merriam-Webster definition of arrogance: an attitude of superiority manifested in an overbearing manner or in PRESUMPTUOUS CLAIMS OR ASSUMPTIONS. According to that very real definition every country that engages in verbal attack and every individual person's negative opinion of America is arrogance. The Constitution is NOT dead and has served this country well for over 200 years. And neither are the founding fathers who wrote it, they live on through the proven success of their words and of this country. Many laws have evolved since then (some very stupid ones), but they're not part of the Constitution or the Amendments. The latter won't be tampered with and although there are those who try, like many in this country who want to see the 2nd Amendment go by the wayside (right of the people to keep and bear arms), they don't get very far. The Constitution is what grounds this country and keeps it from blowing around with every silly little "new world order" wind. I do NOT want to offend or alienate anyone here, that's not my purpose for this post. But I don't want to be offended either.

OK folks - my web board is not a ANTI-GUN FORUM. Everyone can have their personal opinion on this issue but their opinions will not be allowed on my board.

If gun control is a topic of interest to you then take it to a gun forum.

In this Pit Bull case the legal system will deal with the dumb ass owners.

I also agree that most people would not have been able to kill these dogs with a hand gun. The odds are they would have had an accidental shooting of another human.

Unless you have been forced to kill a dog with a handgun you would not understand this.

This thread is closed.