Solange Boivin Webboard User Reg: 05-07-2013
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She is close to 88 lbs now.....I was not kidding when I was saying she was more then alf of my weight lol.....Thanks for the compliment.....I think so too that she is a cuitie.....but they all are. Aren't they not? Like I told Bob the other day.....I tell her that her looks won't change a thing in how she must behave and how I will demand of her. But there are times, especially when she sneaks on the couch and looks at me with these puppy eyes (even with her size she still has those lol) I have a hard time not to smile and just cuddle her. lol
"there are times, especially when she sneaks on the couch and looks at me with these puppy eyes (even with her size she still has those lol) I have a hard time not to smile and just cuddle her. lol "
I do understand those "puppy eyes" but consistency, consistency, consistency! Without that she'll never truly understand that she doesn't belong on the couch. That can be very confusing to her.
Solange Boivin Webboard User Reg: 05-07-2013
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yes Bob.....I said that I have a hard time not to smile and to cuddle her.....but I don't.....I go to her and take her down......the couch has been a "nono" since day 1.....it is just hard not to leave her on lol.
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I am in complete awe of the time and work you are putting into your girl Solange, it is the sort of commitment that so many shy away from because it is hard work.
Big respect to you, and the experts giving their time so generously and freely - this board has some outstanding people.
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Quote: Bob Scott
... consistency, consistency, consistency!
Billboard!
As Ed has commented, if you do not allow something, then you cannot let it slide just because you're in your favorite chair watching a movie. It has to be consistent to be anything but confusing to the dog.
Allow it once, and now it's "sometimes I can and sometimes I can't and I have no way to know when, except by doing it" to the dog's perception.
yes Bob.....I said that I have a hard time not to smile and to cuddle her.....but I don't.....I go to her and take her down......the couch has been a "nono" since day 1.....it is just hard not to leave her on lol.
Here's one that may be hard to understand.
She knows she's not allowed to be ON the couch but she doesn't understand that she shouldn't GET ON the couch.
I look at it the same as coming home and finding trash all over the house. The dog knows it is going to be in trouble with the trash all over but it doesn't know it shouldn't GET INTO the trash.
Make sense?
Dogs live in the here and now. If it climbed on the couch or got in the trash 2-3 mins ago then it doesn't connect the corrections with GETTING ON the couch or GETTING IN the trash.
You MUST correct as it is happening, not for the results of it happening.
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A lot like zipping the dog outside instantly when she squats and then praising for good "outside potty" ..... not finding a puddle and punishing the completely mystified dog, who learns only that something about a puddle triggers bad things, or maybe even just that sometimes the owner is angry and punishes for no known reason at all.
So Bob, you're saying that catching the move to get up onto the couch is most important, right?
Even that finding the dog already on the couch is simply the result of handler error (lack of managing) and needs just removal and not correcting .... with the focus to be on the move onto the couch?
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Quote: Solange Boivin
yes Bob.....I said that I have a hard time not to smile and to cuddle her.....but I don't.....I go to her and take her down......the couch has been a "nono" since day 1.....it is just hard not to leave her on lol.
Here's one that may be hard to understand.
She knows she's not allowed to be ON the couch but she doesn't understand that she shouldn't GET ON the couch.
I look at it the same as coming home and finding trash all over the house. The dog knows it is going to be in trouble with the trash all over but it doesn't know it shouldn't GET INTO the trash.
Make sense?
Dogs live in the hear and now. If it climbed on the couch or got in the trash 2-3 mins ago then it doesn't connect the corrections with GETTING ON the couch or GETTING IN the trash.
You MUST correct as it is happening, not for the results of it happening.
Bob, I can't resist sharing this story from well over 50 years ago, despite its not containing any training tips:
Friends of our family had a pet Boxer who was NOT allowed on the furniture, although he was allowed free range of their house while they were out -- When they'd get home, Beware would greet them at the front door, showing totally INNOCENT body-language ... However, there would always be a warm Boxer-Sized indentation on the sofa cushions We all chalked it up to dogs being pre-disposed to taking advantage of any self-serving opportunity (and at least Beware was not destructive).
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We all chalked it up to dogs being pre-disposed to taking advantage of any self-serving opportunity (and at least Beware was not destructive).
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