Brad . Martin Webboard User Reg: 09-14-2005
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Hi,
I have a simple question here... While working on grip my dog has been shaking and pulling the ball. She will do this to a pillow or whatever else we work with. I have been finding a lot of info here on how to get the dog to stop this behavior; but that is not my concern at this time.
I am wondering, if the fighting that she is doing is an example of hectic behavior,or turned on nerves? Does the shaking mean that the grip is not calm? Should I be continuing to train her to just hold on tightly or is the shaking and pulling part of a proper grip? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
Brad . Martin Webboard User Reg: 09-14-2005
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I have a mid sized (50 lbs), female, mixed breed <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Her mother was a Rottie/Sepherd cross and the sire was a Bull-Mastiff. She is three years old.
Please forgive me, I don't mean to be rude, but what does that have to do with my question? Just curious <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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Just nosey.....no, it seems like some people are trying to move from the rag to the sleeve almost as soom as pups are weened from their mother. Glad to see you are not one of them.
Brad . Martin Webboard User Reg: 09-14-2005
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OK, I was just wondering, Susan. I am on this board for one purpose.. to learn <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> and I thought that there might be a reason for asking such questions that I could not read into. Just so you know, I wasn't trying to be a jerk.
And thanks for your compliment, I never push her beyond her ability (even though I would like to sometimes) <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
Howard Knauf Webboard User Reg: 09-24-2003
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Bradley,
try giving her something larger to bite, like a sleeve(its harder to swing around) Keep her tied back so that you can pull and strengthen her grip. Her shaking should be drastically reduced and give her praise while she is still with a good grip. You can also lift her front legs off the ground while on the bite so that she cant get good leverage to shake. If she still tries then you can walk backwards with her at the same time.
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Thanks Howard. So you did answer my question... shaking is not "good form" for the dog. However, now I am wondering, since it is an instinctive behavior, is the shaking nerves or just something that a dog does? She has an amazing grip when she wants to, I can swing her around on a tug.. about 6 or 7 full rotations with all four paws off the ground (then I get too dizzy to keep going <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> ). I will try with a harness and a tie out, working movement and counters for now.. does that sound proper?
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Bradley,
I wouldn't neccessarily say it was bad form. Depends on what you want. Personally, I dont mind my working dog shaking on the bite. It is very distracting to bad guys and tends to prevent them from taking a swat at the dog because it kind of psyches them out a bit as well as produce alot of pain. Your dog is probably just swinging the rag and toys about because it is fun and it creates movement in the "prey" that they have caught. If the dog shows fur and is vocal and chewy on the sleeve then I would be a little concerned about nerves, otherwise get her to calm down if thats what you want.
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