I second Diana's post!! I have really noticed that all throughout most of the shows, Cesar repeats over & over, that his methods are not quick fixes, & usually there is a lot of hard work ahead. He continues to amaze me in his ability to communicate with humans, & the way he can imitate a dog is uncanny, (to say nothing of sometimes really funny). <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> I don't think his methods are new, just his manner of getting people to understand things from a dogs' perspective, & appreciate dogs for being dogs, not little humans. There was a show in the new season where he gave marital advise, & I did think that was a little over the top!

Well keep in mind that through the magic of television editing you can show a lot of progress that took days in a short period of a one hour show.

You are so right. I wish the general public would realize this. Maybe they would think twice about that cute little puppy in the window, if they knew how much work is involved in raising a dog properly.

I think it depends on the particular problem with a dog. Some problems really are almost instant fixes if you approach them the right way. It reminds me of some of the scenes in Ed's video's like the one where he's teaching his dog not to bolt through the gate. It didn't take long for that dog to get the idea. Other problems do take more time and in some cases Cesar will take the dog to live with his pack for 2 or 3 weeks to work things out.

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Cesar has that effect because he exudes confidence, power, sureity, and leadership. Dogs, and all animals really, can read humans like a book and can easily tell the difference from someone that knows what he's doing and is secure in it versus someone who's unsure and questioning every single motion. Watch an episode next time and compare Cesar's body language to that of the clients'. It's no wonder the majority of dogs fall into line!

That's very true. I teach the undergrad biology lab for non-science majors as a TA and using his methods of calm assertiveness, it's so much easier to get control of a class now. I can still joke around and have fun with my students (who are no more than about 5 years younger than I am), but when it comes down to it, just like in dog training and behavior, they know who is in charge. Too bad I couldn't do the TSSST! thing a la South Park. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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It amazes me at how much Cesar is bashed on other dog training discussion boards. Certain people are just really pissed off by this guy. Could you imagine the uproar if Ed Frawley had his own nationwide, National Geographic show?

I know, its rediculous how the people HATE and I mean HATE Ceasar Millan. Though I am not too familiar with Ceasar I do agree with what I do know of his training phylosiphy.

And lets not bring up Ed Frawley on these other discussion forums, I did one time and it was not pretty. They went on and on about how terrible Ed is and blah blah blah (dont worry Ed, I defended you. I got your back, lol). They hate Ed because he uses a prong (the tool from hell, as they put it) and corrections. I feel dogs need corrections as well as positive reinforcements. But no, if you use a prong your called a "lazy" dog trainer, give me a break.

And I also love how Ceasar uses pack behavior as a tool. People look past things that are right in front of them. No matter what a dog is a dog,and their insticts CANNOT be trained out of them, it can be redirected but never extict. That is whats wrong with dogs these days. They aren't shown by their human pack who is in charge. Pack behavior is very complex and every little detail means something to dogs. Dogs are out of control lately because owners don't know how to properly control their dogs and are listening to people who don't truly understand pack behavior and believe that it doesn't exsist.

He recently made another appearance on the Oprah show, & man were the "prof trainers" tearing him a new one on her message boards about his regular show. I think some of these "trainers" must have recognized some of their former clients. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Does anyone remember the days if raising animals and having fits because they seemed to just do thier own thing? I know I do and I am so happy that I learned a different way to train and co-exist with my animals. The horses and dogs that I have had in the last 10 years seem so much happier and willing to do things now than before I learned about real training. I sit and laugh at people that bash ED and Cesar and my own trainer. They seem to forget that I watch them argue, coax, plead, shove, pull, force and give up when they are working with their dogs. I will admit that there are times where I do get frusterated and have to take a break, walk away, put the dog or horse up, wait a bit and then go back and try again but that is getting better but I know it may not ever go away. I am thankful for the ED's and Cesar's out there and think it is funny that pro-trainers are so "jealous" because if they tried this, they would see that it works. We have a lady close to my town that owns a pet shop and provides obedience classes which she has invited me and my dogs to. I politely refused and she wanted to know why, so I told her that I have SAR Dogs (Bloodhound and a Malinois) and that I use different methods than the one she was explaining. Promptly she made a comment about Cesar Milan and I told her that Yes, I use calm, assertive training and trainings aides if I need to. She said I would not fit into her class anyway. hee hee
What kills me is that she does not agree with the type of training, but she has a shelf full of prongs, e-collars and such so she can make a buck or two. I should ask her if she can order me a bite suit and an agitation stick...... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> (just kidding)

<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> I know what you mean! I am going to begin fostering an 8 month puppy who has had limited training. One of the other volunteers offered to lend me her Gentle Leader. I graciously declined but didn't mention my favorite tool. I figure the pup will be able to learn with treats and then, if I still have him in a few months, we will use the prong collar to refine his OB.

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He recently made another appearance on the Oprah show, & man were the "prof trainers" tearing him a new one on her message boards about his regular show. I think some of these "trainers" must have recognized some of their former clients. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

Whoa! Just got back from snooping around on that board. That's exactly what I'm talking about! I don't mind hearing about different approaches to training, but some of these "professional" trainers really exagerate the so called "pain" Cesar suposedly inflicts on his clients dogs to get them to comply.

I must admit, this has become a sort of entertainment for me, watching people go back and forth about Cesar's evil training techniques. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />