thanks mike another great post,

i havent really been commanding much louder only when required i will say sit,down in a normal tone. but sometimes i have to use firmer tone not that often tho which im thankfull of <img src="http://www.leerburg.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

As you say about the reccall its not uncommon for a dog to chase to other dogs <img src="http://www.leerburg.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> again i understand especially as he is an intact male its never going to be simple <img src="http://www.leerburg.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> i guess i was a bit disapointed like you said normally i can recall from most things birds and such.

anyways he is fine back to normal and responding like always maybe i just shocked him and he wasnt expecting it

as you say it takes time <img src="http://www.leerburg.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> and maybe i need to do more regular clicker training, as i have been slacking <img src="http://www.leerburg.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

hopefully a one off and maybe i got my point across <img src="http://www.leerburg.com/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />