Collin, for the female I would wipe down the patio with Nature's Miracle to remove the pee smell. But unless you're there to take her to the dirt area to pee, she may continue to go on the patio anyway.

For the pup, I think it's expecting too much to have his kennel on the patio and not have him potty on the patio. I don't think crate training will help him with that. If the crate is inside the house, he'll still go pee on the patio since he's kenneled there. If the crate is outside in the kennel, same problem.

I'm assuming when you say kennel, you mean an outdoor run. Maybe you can move the kennel off the patio?

Basically, crate training won't do much for this particular potty situation. The pup will learn not to potty in the crate, but the patio will still be fair game if he's kenneled there.

If you want him to sleep in the crate, just putting it in the kennel will probably do it. He may go in there on his own to sleep.

shucks. thats what I was afraid of Sandy. I was hoping that by crating him and then taking him straight to the dirt area to eliminate that would kind teach him the right area to go.

Im trying to part time crate him only because while Im at work there is no way to let him out during the day. Im tryina also slowly get him used to the crate so at least in the next 2-3 weeks he can sleep in there over night.

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shucks. thats what I was afraid of Sandy. I was hoping that by crating him and then taking him straight to the dirt area to eliminate that would kind teach him the right area to go.

Im trying to part time crate him only because while Im at work there is no way to let him out during the day. Im tryina also slowly get him used to the crate so at least in the next 2-3 weeks he can sleep in there over night.

I'd certainly give it a shot. You never know, he could surprise you and pick up on going in the dirt only. But since you're gone during the day and he's so young, he won't be able to hold it and the patio is right there

If you're trying to crate train him in the house, but he'll be sleeping outside, you're teaching him that he'll be coming in the house at night. If that's not your intention, you might want to just have him come and go in the crate if it's in the house, not closing the door and not letting him nap in there. Otherwise, he'll protest when you move him and the crate outside at night . Like I said, I think if you leave the crate in the kennel, he'll go in there on his own and use it as his bed. You can throw treats in there for him to get him accustomed to going in and out and feel good about going in there. But I think sleeping in there will end up being something he chooses to do (or not).

If you plan on taking him in the car with you and you want him in a crate, then I'd do the crate training in the car itself.

He's doing a good job so far. once I bring him over to the dirt area, he pretty much goes potty there. he does go occasionally in the kennel and I expect that. he also very willingly runs into his crate when I open the door.

lol

I have just set up an outside kennel area for our pup, so I could get him off of the tie up. And noticed this morning when I went to go pick up his poop from being in there last night, that there wasn't any. So since I know he poops approx 15 mins after eating, and he was in there for 2 hours, he held it until this morning.

I can only assume that he equates the kennel to being a larger version of his crate ... so I am going to take my extra crate (one of the smaller ones) and remove the door and put that in the corner near the end with his food.

and I will put part of a stool in the opposite corner for him.

If he needed to go, I want him to be able to go ... and realize that it is different than when he is in his crate inside in either the kitchen or the bedroom.

sounds like you're possibly having the opposite issue, but putting a crate inside the kennel area, might still help you, too.