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#164376 - 11/23/2007 06:22 PM |
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Dont know which one but its on TV 
Anyhow i am watching this and it is what it is, show dogs. Now i saw the German Shepard and i was kind of shocked to see the steep slope from shoulders to hips. My experience with GSD is limited to about 9 or 10 and they are all working dogs but is that shape of the dog standard?
Just thought it was interesting.
Edit: That and i saw that the GSD was put in the herding dog class and not the working dog class.
Edited by Michael West (11/23/2007 06:25 PM)
Edit reason: Edited to add info.
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#164380 - 11/23/2007 06:38 PM |
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That was the Philly Kennel Club Show and I watched it too. From what I've figured it seems that the show lines are like that. To me it looks like they'd be very weak in the hindquarters.
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#164381 - 11/23/2007 06:44 PM |
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But aren't they purrrretty?
For myself I always considered herding and the working group dogs the same class. And since when did the sporting group don't work?
But aren't they purrrretty?
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#164382 - 11/23/2007 06:45 PM |
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Oh yes, the good old AmBreds. the American bred shepherds do have a very distinct topline. I saw the same show and I found that the dog was more of a show pony than a working dog.
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#164399 - 11/23/2007 07:28 PM |
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I didn't think that dogs topline was as bad as some of the show dogs you see. Bad but not as bad. I still don't see how they think a dog built like that is going to do any work and would think that has got to contribute to the incidences of hip dysplasia in the breed. I think the herding group was split off from the working group about 15 or 20 years ago. Don't remember for sure when. In the beginning of the AKC dogs were either classified as sporting or non sporting and as more breeds were accepted the different groups evloved from there.
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#164413 - 11/23/2007 07:52 PM |
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I must admit my knowledge is very limited in AKC classifications. Perhaps willful, but no appologies.
Lisa are you saying that at one time the rat dogs, the herding dogs, the lap dogs, the pit dogs, the hauling dogs, in short any dog not used in sport hunting was under one class?
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#164428 - 11/23/2007 08:40 PM |
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I'd love to see some photos of ambred showlines, german showlines, and german working lines. Does anyone know any sites that have a topline comparison?
My girl (German, Show sire, working dam) has a straight back and till the very end of her hindquarters, where there is a definite roach. I believe (correct me here) that this is a german show trait. It doesn't interfere too much with her ability to move and boogy, but I've always preferred the appearance of a straight backed dog.
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#164436 - 11/23/2007 09:08 PM |
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I must admit my knowledge is very limited in AKC classifications. Perhaps willful, but no appologies.
Lisa are you saying that at one time the rat dogs, the herding dogs, the lap dogs, the pit dogs, the hauling dogs, in short any dog not used in sport hunting was under one class?
I am not Lisa but I do know that the "Herding Group" was not created until the late 80's. Until that time, the GSDs, ACDs, Aussies etc were classified with the "Working Group". The working group is now comprised of dogs like the Doberman, Rottie, etc. The dogs are segmented by what they were originally bred to do for the most part. Some breeds like the ACD still comprised of dogs that actually have herding ability. It is harder to make that argument when it comes to American Cockers, Dobermans etc :-(
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I'd love to see some photos of ambred showlines, german showlines, and german working lines. Does anyone know any sites that have a topline comparison?
My girl (German, Show sire, working dam) has a straight back and till the very end of her hindquarters, where there is a definite roach. I believe (correct me here) that this is a german show trait. It doesn't interfere too much with her ability to move and boogy, but I've always preferred the appearance of a straight backed dog.
Here is an interesting article that Leerburg has:
http://leerburg.com/gsd-gate.htm
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#164438 - 11/23/2007 09:19 PM |
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I must admit my knowledge is very limited in AKC classifications. Perhaps willful, but no appologies.
Lisa are you saying that at one time the rat dogs, the herding dogs, the lap dogs, the pit dogs, the hauling dogs, in short any dog not used in sport hunting was under one class?
That's pretty much the way they were divided. It was either a sporting breed or a non sporting breed and as they recognized more and more breeds the other classes came about.
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