I have to agree with some of the earlier posters. I have a hard time seeing how jumping on a person is ever a pack issue. It may be symptom(i.e. if you allow your dog to jump you probably allow a lot of other things too) but jumping is done for the most part because a dog is excited and wants to say hi. Think about the first things dogs do when the see each other (be it first time or life long buddies). They sniff mouths. Dogs have to jump to sniff your mouth.
Hold your dogs lead and stand in a long hall way. Don't say anything, do anything or move. Have your husband walk towards you. As soon as your pup jumps up have him turn around and walk in the other direction. After a few trys your dog will probably sit down as the hubby approaches. If he does you can give him a treat or just let the husband pet him. Do this for a few minutes everyday combined with never petting, touching or talking to him when he does jump and you'll fix it.
Michele McAtee Webboard User Reg: 02-05-2006
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Thank you so much, all of you for helping me gain perspective on this situation.
We will continue with husband feeding dog in the morning. Having him work on simple commands (come) and making it fun and good.
NILIF is critical for my husband to enforce. It will just take practice.
I agree, in regards to the jumping up, we are not so much facing pack rank stuff, but over enthusiasm. Will try some more structured time with dog and husband.
Truly, I think my husband is quite impressed with what I've done with the dog. The dog does not always listen to my husband like he does with me. *That* is maybe more of the rank/pack stuff? Maybe not...
Eich's a jumper when it comes to greeting. Neither the wife nor I really mind it. In fact, the wife is jealous if she doesn't get assaulted at the door.
However, there are those times when it's not convenient, so we have a "through" command. I turn my back, spread my legs apart, bend over him while he can lick my face and I can rub his chest. Seems like he just wants to greet in a doggy way, as the licks and chest rubs seem to keep him planted quite well.
Edit: In addition, teaching the jumping itself (or any "unwanted" behavior) as an obedience command in it's own right seemed to help communicate that no behavior is neccesarily bad, it just has a time and place. Why not? They're already offering the damn behavior. Control it.
Of course, there are really no other indications that he's trying to claw his way to the top, either. So...
Brenda Mitchell Webboard User Reg: 07-03-2007
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What works with my dog, is, when she goes to jump, I fold my arms across my chest in front of me, and stand tall like a statue. She stops immediately. Now it works with my guests also. I tell them that as soon as they come over, and it's so fun to watch it work. When they see she might start to jump, they fold their arms, and Star will stop mid-air and put her paws back on the floor.
Not quite sure WHY it works, but it's a relief that it does! She jumps less and less, now, and my guests love it that aren't getting mauled from excitement when they come to my house.
When Loki was having a jumping problem at about 8 months to a year i tried everything i could think of but nothing was helping.
Finally i started putting a few treats in extra small lunch type bags and would keep them in the car with me to have one ready when i walked in the door.
As i opened the door i would toss the treats in the bag onto his bed so that he redirected himself to going to his bed and had to work a minute to get the treats out of the bag.
It broke the habit better than any corrections or kneeing or other things i tried. Took maybe a month to totally solve the problem of jumping on me.
Even now though, When someone who i know will cause a bunch of exitement is coming over I make up one of the bags and toss it to his bed at the same time I open the door. This way he doesnt jump on other people that he doesnt see often but really likes.
It also reinforces the whole not jumping on people in a totally positive and natural way.
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