Diaherra
#169766 - 12/19/2007 10:39 AM |
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Hello, I did a search on this problem and couldn’t find anything specific. Perhaps someone can answer some questions. My 6 month old female pup seems to have diaherra a lot. Some times is ok, other times not so good. Especially last night at 3am. I took her out side and she had the big D real bad. Very watery more than her normal D. I have previously taken her to the vet to check this out and took in a watery stool sample and they found nothing, however they did put her on some meds. I can’t remember the name but it was to kill bad bacteria and the other was to help with her stomach. It’s probably my fault because I let her in the back yard just for about 10 minutes a day on her own. We have a fenced in yard but have a huge Oak tree and it has been shedding its acorns like crazy. I do not let her eat these when im with her but im sure she has eaten them. My vet said they were toxic and not to let her eat them... But how can I prevent this when I let her in the yard. I clean and blow the back yard when ever I can. It has been raining for the last couple days and she has to go out to pee and poop. Also she is a very very picky eater so I bought some chicken liver and boiled it and mixed in with her kibble and can of beef chunks with rice of coarse. I gave her about a cup of the liver. I also have been giving her a raw beef bone every day. I just dread taking her to the vet again. Does anyone have any ideas? Is there something I could do to stop the big D??
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#169768 - 12/19/2007 10:46 AM |
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A cup of liver will give diarrhea for sure, especially if the dog isn't used to organ meat.
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#169775 - 12/19/2007 10:56 AM |
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And keep the dog on a leash and teach "drop it" for the acorns.
A raw beef bone? Like what? Marrow?
Marrow and a cup of liver..... whew!
If she is a picky eater, you might try more long walks. No free-feeding..... and what kibble are you giving?
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#169785 - 12/19/2007 11:06 AM |
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The kibble I give her is called Avoderm (Natural Oven Baked, Chicken and Brown rice). The bone is Marrow. I usually take her on a two hour walk, but its been raining so I havent gone. Whats free feeding? So No more bones or no more liver? I was giving her the liver because she seemed to eat all of her meal if i mixed that in.
What can i giver her that would be easy on her belly to get rid of the D. Boiled chicken and rice???
Were going on a nice long walk now. No rain... yippeee
Thanks for all your comments.. most appreciated.
Susan
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#169786 - 12/19/2007 11:13 AM |
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The kibble I give her is called Avoderm (Natural Oven Baked, Chicken and Brown rice). The bone is Marrow. I usually take her on a two hour walk, but its been raining so I havent gone. Whats free feeding? So No more bones or no more liver? I was giving her the liver because she seemed to eat all of her meal if i mixed that in.
What can i giver her that would be easy on her belly to get rid of the D. Boiled chicken and rice???
Were going on a nice long walk now. No rain... yippeee
Thanks for all your comments.. most appreciated.
Susan
Is that the one with avocado? I'd probably dump that on G.P. because avocado is toxic to dogs. I imagine it's in tiny amounts, since avocado is expensive, but I still think it demonstrates a woeful lack of canine nutrition knowledge.
Free feeding is leaving the bowl down.
That is WAY too much liver. Organ meat in a fresh raw diet s/b about 5-10%.
Marrow too is very rich.
Yes, I would suggest some overcooked (like thin gruel) white rice with a little white boiled chicken thrown in for a couple of days. No marrow.
You might want to read some threads in the Natural Feeding forum here.
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#169825 - 12/19/2007 01:56 PM |
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Well, we just got back from a long walk. This might be to graphic but on the walk she pooped acorns and leaves and then she barfed leaves of the oak tree and the redwood tree. So obviously I have got to stop her from eating this stuff. Could the above also be causing the diaherra? Along with the bone marrow and to much liver? My poor dog, its all me. Im a bad owner/leader. Does she eat this stuff because she is missing something? Vitamins/Minerals? Will she outgrow this eating habit?
Yes the Avoderm has the avocado. I only feed her that because thats all she has eaten. I have feed her previously Canidae, California Natural, Innova, Wellness, Chicken Soup.
Any other Kibble advice?? She is just so picky its hard to get her to eat anything. One day she will eat something the next day not.
Thanks for everyones help..
Susan
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#169829 - 12/19/2007 02:01 PM |
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Any of those other kibbles are better, IMO.
Looks like she needs to be on her leash outdoors.
I'd start working on drop it, too.
How is her weight? Are you maybe just overfeeding? I mean, is she malnourished, or a good weight?
Have you considered fresh raw food?
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#169830 - 12/19/2007 02:06 PM |
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OK your dog does NOT look fat at all, but will she eventually eat kibble on her own? maybe she is just not hungry.
One thing I used to do is add hot tap water to the kibble and let it sit for 5 minutes to soften the food (it makes like a gravy). Before giving to your dog, feel it to make sure it is warm, not too hot. (the hot water loses heat as it soaks into the kibble).
Offer it to the dog, don't let it sit for too long if she doesn't eat it because the water will cause bacteria to multiply in the food. I'd say give her 15-20 minutes then pick it up. I've had success with even the most reluctant dogs this way.
BUT FIRST - do as Connie suggests with the rice and chicken - feed the kibble after the diarrhea has cleared up.
Have you tried some plain canned pumpkin? I've had really good success with it.
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#169832 - 12/19/2007 02:19 PM |
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No overfeeding.. She barely eats.. Probably malnourished more than anything. She is 6 months old and weighs about 40lbs. I have mixed feelings about raw, would rather not.
She is so thin, thats why i was feeding her the liver cuz she ate it. And she loved the bones. So will she out grow the eating acorns and leaves??
Thanks Susan
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#169833 - 12/19/2007 02:24 PM |
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She'll probably outgrow it, but until she does you can't give her any freedom outdoors. It's not as bad as it sounds, I promise. I'm impressed that you could identify the plant species that she was vomitting! A naturalist in our midsts! Or a forensic vomitologist...either way, neat!
Macy refused food in the same way after Rabies vaccine shot. She was on a premium kibble and lost all interest in it, began vommitting and having loose stools. I switched her to raw and she 1) eats her food in under 2 minutes, 2) keeps it down, and 3) went on to gain 7 pounds in about a month and a half. She is at her ideal weight right now. If it weren't against the rules I'd post a picture in this thread, she is gorgeous.
Our sheltie's coat went from brittle and dry to lustrous, shining and the softest coat I've ever felt. In about 2 weeks. I know how you feel right now about her being underweight, about the vomitting and diarrhea, and I know what worked for me.
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