I have a German Shepherd Corgi almost 20 months, 60 lbs named Jack. And me and my friend want our dogs to be friends. He has a 2 1/2 year old Australian Shepherd dog named Rudy. Whenever they see each other they go crazy. And we haven't really have them meet to close up for long because they make so much noise, were scared the neighbors will get angry. There both males have been neutered. Jack bitted Rudy before so I think its over. What should we do?

why do you want your dogs to be friends?

i'm not the world's most experienced person, but to me, it's more important my dogs function well within our pack - they don't need to have friends outside of it, though i expect them to behave around other dogs.

i think in one of your other threads (i'm sorry, i don't remember all the details) you mentioned you were having issues w/jack being defensive/territorial/aggressive.

assuming i'm remembering that correctly, i'd work on getting a strong pack structure in place and dealing with those issues before you start trying to find friends for your dog.

if you do want to find other dog friends, i'd really step back, look at your dog's temperament, then the temperament of the other dog, and evaluate whether they're well-matched. then, go slow. i don't know the circumstances of the bite or how bad it was, but they may not be well-matched or they may just need more supervision.

others will be probably be more helpful though

edit: i found it. http://www.leerburg.com/forums/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Board=18&Number=172681&Searchpage=1&Main=17656&Words=+Paul+Watson&topic=0&Search=true#Post172681

you're having problems with jack displaying dog aggression? and that you don't think he should be doing that when 'you the pack leader is present' and that he may have dominance issues? i really honestly think if that's the case it would be best to ensure you have a strong pack structure and that if you do have a dog aggressive dog, you really need to reconsider having it play with strange dogs.

My dogs don't play with dogs outside my pack. My dogs do not interact with each other unless they are in my presence. I've learned from experience that a dog fight takes less than a second to start (even when you are watching) and feels like it takes eternity to end ... not to mention how dangerous it can be to break it up (try breaking up a three-way between GSDs - years ago, completely my fault, I know better now :-P).

While doggy friends are a nice thought, they are not necessary. I like to be the center of my dogs' worlds and work hard to provide all the stimulation and love they need. They don't need other dogs.

Jack is adorable, by the way. Such a handsome face!

Jack is of great temperament best dog me and my dad have seen in a long time. Now he just looks at Rudy and Rudy just goes crazy. Me and my friend want them to be friends cause we go running for track.

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Jack is of great temperament best dog me and my dad have seen in a long time. Now he just looks at Rudy and Rudy just goes crazy. Me and my friend want them to be friends cause we go running for track.

Would you please explain "crazy"?
I would say that the dogs do not have to be friends in order for you all to go running together, but they have to be tolerant and/or even ignore each other.

Rudy whines and tries his best to runaway because jack made his mark that hes higher rank(bit Rudy).

If you want to run together just teach the dogs to behave in each other's presence. They should be on leash to run, so you shouldn't have to worry about them being friends. If Rudy is afraid of Jack because Jack has bitten Rudy in the past, friendship may not be easy or advisable to attempt. Even dogs who are "friends" can get into serious fights over (what seems to us to be) nothing.

ok thx

what were the circumstances when jack bit rudy? what are the other dog-aggressive circumstances you've been experiencing? i know you mentioned jack flipped at a rott?

i'm just wondering - i know you might really want your dog to be 'friends' with rudy, especially b/c you're friends with his owner, but it might not be best for either dog. i guess i look at it - it's not fair to rudy, if he's getting bitten or attacked, and it's not fair to jack b/c it teaches him he can get away w/that kind of behaviour.

i guess i'm also confused why he has 'great' temperament but you've been experiencing problems w/dog aggression, and not just limited to his aggression towards rudy. i'm the first to say i'm not an expert, but i wonder if you're looking at jack realistically.