Lynne Barrows Webboard User Reg: 09-22-2007
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I am doing marker training w/Chula and she's doing very well, so far. She is very food driven, and the higher the value of the reward, the faster and more interested she is in the training we are doing.
I would like to start intermittently rewarding her w/ food when we are training. This builds frustration, and drive, right?
When is this appropriate (at what stage of training)?
We are working on the distraction phase of 'sit', 'down' and 'watch me' at this point. We are in the learning phase of 'come' and 'place'
I would like to keep her obedience training as positive as possible and hope that, other than 'come' and 'leave it', I can avoid physical corrections.
The intermitten reward can start as soon as the dog really understands the behaviour. If your in the distraction phase you should be able to start. Just make sure your random reward really is. We fall into patterns without even know it. Our dog will pick up on that.
As with any training the most important thing is timing, timing. timing. Command/compliance/mark/reward.
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I would like to keep her obedience training as positive as possible and hope that, other than 'come' and 'leave it', I can avoid physical corrections.
With a totally green dog who has not been called with unhappy (to the dog) results, I think you may be able to teach the recall without physical corrections, if you start right.
I do use a long line with the adults I work with, many of whom do associate the recall either with bad results or with a rousing game of "chase me," but reeling them in without comment is the extent of the physical correction I use in the teaching phase.
I would like to keep her obedience training as positive as possible and hope that, other than 'come' and 'leave it', I can avoid physical corrections.
With a totally green dog who has not been called with unhappy (to the dog) results, I think you can train the recall without physical corrections, if you start right.
I do use a long line with the adults I work with, many of whom do associate the recall either with bad results or with a rousing game of "chase me," but reeling them in without comment is the extent of the physical correction I use.
Absolutely!!
The key to a solid "come" is convincing the dog that being with you is the best place in the world.
NEVER call the dog when you know it won't. (to distracted)
NEVER call a dog to correct it. (dog is chewing a shoe, you call the dog then correct)
Dogs are in the moment. The correction or reward is linked to the very last thing the dog did. In this case, it came when it was called. The correction, in the dog's mind, was for the "come", not for chewing the shoe.
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I would add to that, you can lay a strong foundation by remembering to call the dog for every good thing that's about to happen. Food, playing, a walk, a car ride.... all start with a recall.
As Bob says, "come" can be something the dog wants to hear, that his ears perk up and he smiles and trots (or races) right to you when he hears it.
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I would add to that, you can lay a strong foundation by remembering to call the dog for every good thing that's about to happen. Food, playing, a walk, a car ride.... all start with a recall.
Yes, I need to get in that mind-set of using my recall word for all good things(I'm using something other than 'come'). I forget quite a bit to do that...thanks for the suggestions...
I never have formally taught Molly to come. At first I would just call her name and she would come out of curiosity and I'd reward her with a treat. I still occasionally treat her when she comes to a call. Later I taught her to come to a whistle by calling her name first then blowing the whistle and treating. Now she comes to either a whistle or her name. To do this however you need to start really early with the pup while they are still wondering what that big hairless ugly dog is barking at.
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