Tresa Hendrix wrote 07/12/2008 12:22 AM U-turns #201483 - 07/12/2008 12:22 AM
Tresa Hendrix Webboard User Reg: 05-08-2008 Posts: 1473 Loc: Alaska Offline	How come in schutzhund they do U-turns differently than UKC and AKC obedience trials? If I do a schutzhund U-turn at a UKC trial, will my dog loose points? A tired dog is a good dog, a trained dog is a better dog.
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Mike J Schoonbrood wrote 07/12/2008 02:20 AM Re: U-turns [Re: Tresa Hendrix ] #201488 - 07/12/2008 02:20 AM
Mike J Schoonbrood Webboard User Reg: 04-30-2005 Posts: 2784 Loc: Toronto, ON Offline	Because Schutzhund is a different sport. Same reason that OB in Ringsports are different too. You will probably lose points if you do the exercise incorrectly. Doing an exercise according to how another sport wants you to do it, opposed to the sport you are competing in, is generally considered "doing it incorrectly."
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Connie Sutherland wrote 07/12/2008 01:59 PM Re: U-turns [Re: Tresa Hendrix ] #201527 - 07/12/2008 01:59 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: tresa hendrix How come in schutzhund they do U-turns differently than UKC and AKC obedience trials? ... If I do a schutzhund U-turn at a UKC trial, will my dog loose points? Do you mean "Why can't I use the rules from one sport in a different sport?" Good idea, though; if only it worked that way.
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Tresa Hendrix wrote 07/12/2008 07:04 PM Re: U-turns [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #201554 - 07/12/2008 07:04 PM
Tresa Hendrix Webboard User Reg: 05-08-2008 Posts: 1473 Loc: Alaska Offline	UKC or AKC doesn't specify how U-turns are supposed to be done. The rules simply state that all U-turns are to the right. But I have never seen a U-turn in obedience done by any handler like they do in schutzhund. I don't want to confuse my dog by doing both, unless of course I come up with a subtle way to cue him in on each type. A tired dog is a good dog, a trained dog is a better dog.
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Kristin Mortensen wrote 07/12/2008 07:34 PM Re: U-turns [Re: Tresa Hendrix ] #201557 - 07/12/2008 07:34 PM
Kristin Mortensen Webboard User Reg: 10-10-2006 Posts: 223 Loc: UT Offline	FWIW: Aren't schutzhund U-turns always done to the left? They are very different than the AKC turns but if you teach the dog the difference (and I think the dog would naturally see them very differently since the dog heels on the left in both sports) I don't think there would be major issues. I've never trained a left U-turn or competed in either venue.
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Will Rambeau wrote 07/12/2008 07:59 PM Re: U-turns [Re: Tresa Hendrix ] #201565 - 07/12/2008 07:59 PM
Will Rambeau Moderator Reg: 01-25-2003 Posts: 5983 Loc: Idaho Offline	Just as an FYI, they call u-turns "about turns" in AKC OB. The Fetz dog: http://www.leerburg.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/79673/page/25
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Tresa Hendrix wrote 07/14/2008 10:46 AM Re: U-turns [Re: Kristin Mortensen ] #201693 - 07/14/2008 10:46 AM
Tresa Hendrix Webboard User Reg: 05-08-2008 Posts: 1473 Loc: Alaska Offline	Thanks for the clarification...I though the difference was that the dog goes around the handler in schutzhund, didn't realize they were to the left. Now it makes more sense kind of. So in schutzhund as long as the handler makes a left about turn it doesn't matter other than that, the dog can go around or back up and stay at heel that way right? A tired dog is a good dog, a trained dog is a better dog.
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