My main dog Kota has free roam of the house, has a crate but there is no door on it as he has proven to me he NEVER needs to be kenneled. He will stay in his crate if I ask him to do so.

... except when I am training my fosters. They are clicker trained, Kota responds to both the clicker and 'yes'. Kota can open my doors (not enough foresight on my part before teaching him this ) and will open the bedroom door and come into the living when I am training the fosters. This is when I use 'yes' with him and put him in a down-stay in the corner.

Am I confusing Kota when I am training the fosters with the clicker? The way I have thought about it is that he knows it is not training time for him, it is training time for the fosters. Clearly it drives him crazy, if I do not put him in a down stay he will sit/down/stand/touch etc do all the things I am teaching the fosters. Sometimes I will reward the foster first, then him but I just want to make sure I am not confusing my dog when I train the fosters.

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My dogs watch eagerly while the "favored" one is trained. Occasionally they will give it a shot at down, sit, etc., just to see if maybe a marker treat will come their way, but no, they're not confused. They know when they are in the limelight.

And they are quick to jump up in happiness when it's their turn, too.

Also, I like to use the dog's name, although not everyone likes this. I do it because I am never one-on-one with a single dog, whether mine or someone else's.

So I would say "Leo, sit."

I never use the dog's name for verbal corrections -- only for commands and occasionally for "Good Oliver! Good boy!" when something was very hard or complicated. Positive use of names only, for me.

This is a huuuuuuge problem for me. I crate the other dogs and go into a separate room with the dog I am working with. But the other dogs can hear the clicker or marker and begin howling and carrying on. Which then makes me feel guilty... hehe.

If i have more than one dog out they push each other and compete for the treat, so I no longer do that either.

Now I just try to have them somewhere they can't hear me training, such as outside, but even then I can hear the howls coming from inside the house.... well, I guess it's great that they love training so much.

I'd like to hear what others have to say on the subject!

Have you tried "place," or crated but able to watch?

Mine would definitely try to get the reward first, but they're "placed" several feet away from the one who is working and me.

How are they with "place" and "quiet" when there is no marker work going on?

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... well, I guess it's great that they love training so much.

Really!

"Train ME!" "No, ME!"

I have never trained "place". I am still working on things like hand touch, sit etc. I believe place would involve "stay with distractions", where training another dog would be a level 8 (at least) distraction and we are just not there yet (or anywhere near it). Yet! I have not even started with sending a dog to a target, they can only touch a target if it is between them and me. That is our goal for this week, to go to a target.

"quiet" works for about 20 seconds before they start up again. All my dogs are generally good in their crates UNLESS they figure out another dog is having FUN TRAINING TIME (or fun walks or going outside time) and it is NOT THEM!!! Then they must remind me that I forgot them. So in other words quiet is generally not necessary unless marker work or a leash is being gotten out or something.

I hope this is along the lines of the OPs question! (In other words they DEFINITELY know I am not training them. No confusion, just being upset that it is not their turn. I suspect this is what is happening with Kota).

phew. I'm glad I'm not confusing him. I do notice when he is right next to me 'following along' his drive goes WAY up if we train right after. Not so much if he is in a down-stay.

I've always been wary of using the fosters names since they will probably be changed once they find a home, and I definitely don't use them when angry. Sometimes I call them 'dog' HAHA, I do this so I won't get too attached but also since they'll get changed.

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All my dogs are generally good in their crates UNLESS they figure out another dog is having FUN TRAINING TIME

Hehe, that's exactly the problem. Kota will stay in his crate no problem while I'm doing all sorts of fun activities, cutting up meat/treats, fixing dinner/guests eating. Medium levels of distraction. I guess it is the fact that food being passed out to other dogs that is a HIGH distraction.

This seems like a good opportunity for me to practice place. His place is in another room from the front door/living room area. He just has SUCH a hard time if he cannot see me when treats are being dispensed. One step at a time.

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My dogs watch eagerly while the "favored" one is trained. Occasionally they will give it a shot at down, sit, etc., just to see if maybe a marker treat will come their way, but no, they're not confused. They know when they are in the limelight.

And they are quick to jump up in happiness when it's their turn, too.

Also, I like to use the dog's name, although not everyone likes this. I do it because I am never one-on-one with a single dog, whether mine or someone else's.

So I would say "Leo, sit."

I never use the dog's name for verbal corrections -- only for commands and occasionally for "Good Oliver! Good boy!" when something was very hard or complicated. Positive use of names only, for me.

Way cool. This is what I've been doing ever since you recommended the marker training DVD to me. I was asking myself the same question as the topic last night when Duke was going bonkers in his crate while I was training with Rasta.