Lisa Smith wrote 03/10/2009 12:36 AM Schutzhund training #231029 - 03/10/2009 12:36 AM
Lisa Smith Webboard User Reg: 11-17-2007 Posts: 40 Loc: Sonoma County, CA Offline	I am new to Schutzhund training. I have a male German Shepherd that is 13 months old.He is 100 percent German and has Schutzhund all through his bloodlines. He has high prey drive and is doing well on protection. My problem is he is mellow on the training field when I work obedience with him. I have integrated pack structure techniques because I also want him to be a family dog and respect me as pack leader. I walk him on a leash every day and I don't allow him to walk ahead of me or sniff and pee until I release him to do so. I also don't allow him to go out a door first, but he must wait for me to invite him out. He is calm and is responding to me as an alpha leader. Will this training interfere with Schutzhund training? He is a quick learner but he isn't hyper and excited. He also isn't food motivated but he will work for playing with the tug. I am not sure if it is possible to have a dog that is a pet in the home and a Schutzhund dog on the field. I would love to hear your thoughts on this.. Thankyou!
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Aaron Myracle wrote 03/10/2009 12:46 AM Re: Schutzhund training [Re: Lisa Smith ] #231030 - 03/10/2009 12:46 AM
Aaron Myracle Webboard User Reg: 06-06-2008 Posts: 5062 Loc: WA, USA Offline	Have you looked into the Flink's method of Building Drive and Focus? Pack structure won't hurt enthusiasm on the training field at all, so don't worry about asking him to wait at doors, etc. If he'll work for the tug, use IT! Many of us have schutzhund dogs that are also house dogs. Keep in mind, you're hitting a funky age, so don't overthink things too much.
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Lisa Smith wrote 03/10/2009 12:49 AM Re: Schutzhund training [Re: Aaron Myracle ] #231031 - 03/10/2009 12:49 AM
Lisa Smith Webboard User Reg: 11-17-2007 Posts: 40 Loc: Sonoma County, CA Offline	Thank you for the encouragement! I will look into the Flink's method! And yes, it is the funky age.. but he makes me laugh (:
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ted efthymiadis wrote 03/10/2009 01:37 PM Re: Schutzhund training [Re: Lisa Smith ] #231075 - 03/10/2009 01:37 PM
ted efthymiadis Webboard User Reg: 03-02-2007 Posts: 278 Loc: Offline	It's totally possible. One tip, most owners I know teach commands in English to be used around the house, and they also teach the same commands in German, only to be used on the field. This way, you have you have English commands = more relaxed and German commands = time to work, no fooling around. Best of luck
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Aaron Myracle wrote 03/10/2009 01:43 PM Re: Schutzhund training [Re: ted efthymiadis ] #231076 - 03/10/2009 01:43 PM
Aaron Myracle Webboard User Reg: 06-06-2008 Posts: 5062 Loc: WA, USA Offline	Oh yes, and don't forget the all important "4 Year Old Boy" commands which mean "Hey puppy, I don't wanna eat this. Quick, eat it before mom sees!"
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Katie O'Connor wrote 03/10/2009 04:33 PM Re: Schutzhund training [Re: Lisa Smith ] #231093 - 03/10/2009 04:33 PM
Katie O'Connor Webboard User Reg: 01-09-2007 Posts: 556 Loc: Upstate NY Offline	Quote: lisa smith I am not sure if it is possible to have a dog that is a pet in the home and a Schutzhund dog on the field. I would love to hear your thoughts on this.. Thankyou! It's completely possible! I train my dog in SchH and she is an un-crated dog in the house at 3 years old -- and just got her CGC, so socially acceptable in public too. As for the mellow field performance -- YOU need to be the best game in town on the training field so to speak. Maybe less "obedience" and more learning to play and motivate him with a toy or food. Katie SG S'Eliana vom Kraftwerk IPO3,AD,CGC,KKL1 Jaya von der Olgameister AD, CGC Pierre, the Poodle!
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Charlie Snyder wrote 03/10/2009 05:09 PM Re: Schutzhund training [Re: Katie O'Connor ] #231102 - 03/10/2009 05:09 PM
Charlie Snyder Webboard User Reg: 08-02-2001 Posts: 999 Loc: Offline	Most 'Schutzhund' dogs are family pets and house dogs. This month's USA magazine (featuring two of Leerburg's finest ;D) has an article with comments from a number of high level competitors about just this topic.
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John DeKruyff wrote 03/10/2009 06:46 PM Re: Schutzhund training [Re: Lisa Smith ] #231108 - 03/10/2009 06:46 PM
John DeKruyff Webboard User Reg: 08-14-2001 Posts: 238 Loc: California Offline	Yes, you can have a Schutzhund dog and a pet in the home. Some things to think about though. On training days at the Schutzhund field, you might consider kenneling him before you go and train to keep his drive up. Also if your going to do tracking, you might consider not feeding him the day before, so he will be hungry and more motivated. When playing tug with your dog you do not want to go and go until the dog is totally worn out. You want to put the dog away when he still wants to play, like he didn't get enough, and that will make him want it more.
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Lisa Smith wrote 03/10/2009 10:04 PM Re: Schutzhund training [Re: John DeKruyff ] #231118 - 03/10/2009 10:04 PM
Lisa Smith Webboard User Reg: 11-17-2007 Posts: 40 Loc: Sonoma County, CA Offline	Thank you so much for all of your advice! I love this forum and I thank you all for the encouragement and the advice that comes from your experiences! It is priceless!
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