Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005
Posts: 31571
Loc: North-Central coast of California
Offline
Quote: scott garrett
Reward question. I offer the reward in my hand, should I be dropping it? When I do drop the reward my dogs turn into furry Hoovers and I end up having to correct them.
For exactly this reason, I do not.
Also, I have taught "easy"* for taking the reward from my fingertips, but you can always use your flat palm.
For the down/stay, would you just slowly increase the time before giving the mark? On the Basic OB video Ed shows throwing the treats down, but that gets the same Hoover response. About the only thing I've been able to successfully use treats on the ground for was recall from distraction...like Ed shows in the Basic OB video.
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005
Posts: 31571
Loc: North-Central coast of California
Offline
Quote: Scott Garrett
.... For the down/stay, would you just slowly increase the time before giving the mark?
VERY slowly, for me. And I don't increase duration at the same time as increasing my distance from the dog. I spend lots of time on this, and as a result almost eliminate my old back-up-and-start-overs. Like the recall, this is worth a ton of time to me.
On the Basic OB video Ed shows throwing the treats down, but that gets the same Hoover response.
Ed does this during the DOWN/STAY exercise because he WANTS the dog to be a Hoover in that situation. By throwing the treats on the ground, the dog's attention is on the ground and it stays down, rather than getting up to look for more treats or getting distracted. Notice that during other exercises such as sit, the treats come from his hand.
I always give the treats from my hand, too... unless I'm doing a down.
I always give the treats from my hand, too... unless I'm doing a down.
I think down is tricky. I ended up luring which was partially successful and then did some shaping....looking back, I think for me, it would have been easier to just catch him in the act and mark. It is not as efficient as a training session but I think it would have been less confusing in the long run.
I do drop the treat when I am trying to get him out of the position I'm working on to speed up the repetitions. I ignore the hoovering and for a young pup if it doesn't stop I just call it a day .
However, I went to the Michael Ellis Seminar yesterday and picked up so much "new" information which was explained so well. I think I'm revamping my whole game plan. My dog is 9 years old and I don't even have engagement down 100% but that's okay because it is easy and fun to practice and I feel good things are ahead. I met some great people and a wonderful trainer I worked in rescue with years ago who I am trying to set up training with. I am really excited (probably why I am getting off topic.....sorry )
.... For the down/stay, would you just slowly increase the time before giving the mark?
VERY slowly, for me. And I don't increase duration at the same time as increasing my distance from the dog. I spend lots of time on this, and as a result almost eliminate my old back-up-and-start-overs. Like the recall, this is worth a ton of time to me.
Lynne Barrows Webboard User Reg: 09-22-2007
Posts: 2531
Loc: S. Florida
Offline
Quote: Doug Alcorn
Am I only supposed to work on one behavior at a time? Should I just work on sit until she can do it on command before working on other stuff? I'm just not sure how to only do sit for like 10 minutes; particularly when she's pretty much got it. Maybe what I need to do is video one of my training sessions and post it for critique.
Doug, you can work on different behaviors with her, but only 1 new one for each session, if that makes sense.
Another essential one to work on is 'Watch me!'
Sit in front of the dog with treats, and wait until the dog looks into your eyes, mark and reward. Once she's doing it consistently over a couple of sessions, put a name to it.
Once she understand the command you can begin to work on duration, and only mark after she's looked into your eyes for 5 or 10 seconds, or whatever.
This is a fun and easy one to teach and your girl probably will get it in 1 or 2 sessions...
And, btw, I think 'touch' is a great one to end with. It's easy, and gives the dog the satisfaction of performing the behavior correctly. Have you put a name to it yet? Sounds like she's ready...
When purchasing any product from Leerburg Enterprises, Inc. it is understood
that any and all products sold by Leerburg Enterprises, Inc. are sold in Dunn
County Wisconsin, USA. Any and all legal action taken against Leerburg Enterprises,
Inc. concerning the purchase or use of these products must take place in Dunn
County, Wisconsin. If customers do not agree with this policy they should not
purchase Leerburg Ent. Inc. products.
Dog Training is never without risk of injury. Do not use any of the products
sold by Leerburg Enterprises, Inc. without consulting a local professional.
The training methods shown in the Leerburg Ent. Inc. DVD’s are meant
to be used with a local instructor or trainer. Leerburg Enterprises, Inc. cannot
be held responsible for accidents or injuries to humans and/or animals.
Copyright 2010 Leerburg® Enterprises, Inc. All rights reserved. All photos and content on leerburg.com are part of a registered copyright owned by Leerburg Enterprise, Inc.
By accessing any information within Leerburg.com, you agree to abide by the
Leerburg.com Privacy Policy and Terms of Use.
Re: Format of a Training Session
Top
.
) 
Previous Topic
Index
Next Topic
.jpg)
