Jo Harker wrote 07/13/2009 05:54 AM Tryptophan -- good or bad #246588 - 07/13/2009 05:54 AM
Jo Harker Webboard User Reg: 10-24-2008 Posts: 921 Loc: Indiana Offline	I have read some debates on the internet about the pros and cons of a turkey based diet: tryptophan being bad, tryptophan being good. I have looked into some sources for the discussions and have come with some. One pro is this: http://books.google.com/books?id=aqeCwxbRWvsC&pg=PA131&lpg=PA131&dq=veterinary+medicine+dogs+tryptophan&source=bl&ots=Lzd2qYyswP&sig=LyD_esH4kxItR2c2RGn85zlal7g&hl=en&ei=7hBbSqroL5DSM-Of9EI&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5 this one: http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/104/6/673 suggests cancer of the bladder but doesn't go into details. http://www.vetcancercare.com/literature/oncology/Urinary%20Tract%20Tumors.pdf again mentioning the amino acid tryptophan. The reason I am asking is the The Honest Kitchen foods I use that Hambone will eat are turkey based. Anectdotally, he is calmer and leaner, but I do want to be sure I am not doing him harm. Has anyone on this board done any research into this area? Any journals you can point me to ease my mind? Look! I DO fit in the bag.
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Anne Jones wrote 07/13/2009 05:23 PM Re: Tryptophan -- good or bad [Re: Jo Harker ] #246662 - 07/13/2009 05:23 PM
Anne Jones Webboard User Reg: 04-29-2004 Posts: 3825 Loc: Northeast Offline	Connie....where are you ?!!! MY DOGS...MY RULES
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Jenni Williams wrote 07/13/2009 05:27 PM Re: Tryptophan -- good or bad [Re: Anne Jones ] #246663 - 07/13/2009 05:27 PM
Jenni Williams Webboard User Reg: 10-06-2005 Posts: 2686 Loc: llinois Offline	I don't know of anything horrible longterm regarding Tryptophan, esp. the amounts ingested by eating turkey. Drugging w/high doses daily might be different.
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Tanith Wheeler wrote 07/13/2009 05:42 PM Re: Tryptophan -- good or bad [Re: Jenni Williams ] #246668 - 07/13/2009 05:42 PM
Tanith Wheeler Webboard User Reg: 11-04-2008 Posts: 572 Loc: Hampshire, England Offline	Some people believe there's a link between low tryptophan levels and dog aggression
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Connie Sutherland wrote 07/13/2009 06:47 PM Re: Tryptophan -- good or bad [Re: Jo Harker ] #246680 - 07/13/2009 06:47 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: Jo Harker I have read some debates on the internet about the pros and cons of a turkey based diet: tryptophan being bad, tryptophan being good. I have looked into some sources for the discussions and have come with some. One pro is this: http://books.google.com/books?id=aqeCwxbRWvsC&pg=PA131&lpg=PA131&dq=veterinary+medicine+dogs+tryptophan&source=bl&ots=Lzd2qYyswP&sig=LyD_esH4kxItR2c2RGn85zlal7g&hl=en&ei=7hBbSqroL5DSM-Of9EI&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5 this one: http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/104/6/673 suggests cancer of the bladder but doesn't go into details. http://www.vetcancercare.com/literature/oncology/Urinary%20Tract%20Tumors.pdf again mentioning the amino acid tryptophan. The reason I am asking is the The Honest Kitchen foods I use that Hambone will eat are turkey based. Anectdotally, he is calmer and leaner, but I do want to be sure I am not doing him harm. Has anyone on this board done any research into this area? Any journals you can point me to ease my mind? I've seen connex made between tumors and faulty metabolism of tryptophan (which can be from either endocrine problems or from long-term or high-level ingestion of supplemental tryptophan), but I have never seen anything connecting tryptophan food sources and cancer. Turkey isn't even the highest-level, I don't think. I think it's white-meat chicken. And maybe tuna is second, and I think tofu is higher than turkey. Not sure about the order. But the old turkey-tryptophan nap thing is probably due more to the Thanksgiving overeating than to any real tryptophan super-content.
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Jo Harker wrote 07/14/2009 06:25 AM Re: Tryptophan -- good or bad [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #246712 - 07/14/2009 06:25 AM
Jo Harker Webboard User Reg: 10-24-2008 Posts: 921 Loc: Indiana Offline	Thanks all. ( I know I am a worrywort with him. ) Look! I DO fit in the bag.
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