When my dog was initially trained as a pup I think there may have been a little too much force involved. Not to an abusive extent, she's not at all shut down. However, she does become frustrated quickly when I try to teach her new things.
When I'm teaching her through shaping and luring and she gets this way I will sometimes back up and tell her to do something she already knows.
For example, today I was trying to teach her roll over. She hit the floor on her side and I marked it. Got her to go on her back and I marked it. I got her to do the whole thing and Jack potted her with treats and praise.
I went to try and get her to do the whole thing again. I could see she was getting frustrated so I moved into the hand touch.
This wasn't a very long session. So I don't think thats what caused the frustration. I think she is probably just a little uncomfortable with experimenting.
Lauren, You might try again when she is on an empty stomach (if she wasn't already)... Perhaps being really hungry and the right reward would be enough to keep her willing to work a bit longer on something new she wasn't that crazy about. ??
I am not an expert, but I go much slower when training a trick...I've found out if I do, then I get a frustrated dog.
So if I were training that trick, I would have spent at least a day on having her go down on her side..the first step of your post, then when she gets that part I would move on to the next part.
This is what has worked for me in training service dogs.
But, I'm fairly new to all this, and so can't speak with any real authority..just on what has worked for me and the dogs I have trained.
I'm still working my way through the marker training vid.
In animal training, I have found that if there is confusion, stress, or frustration, then its time to break it down into smaller steps.
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... I go much slower when training a trick... if I were training that trick, I would have spent at least a day on having her go down on her side.. the first step of your post, then when she gets that part I would move on to the next part. ... I have found that if there is confusion, stress, or frustration, then its time to break it down into smaller steps.
Me too. I don't connect the chain until every link is effortless.
I did teach her the first part a few days ago, but I still might have gone too fast. Some things I have in the past she has learned so quickly that it is kind of crazy, maybe because of this I tend to expect too much.
I just finished watching Establishing Pack Structure with the Family Pet. Ed correlates a dog being stressed while learning something new to the stress we all felt when we first learned how to drive.
For me, that was a lot of stress. 1967 in a Ford automatic transmission something or other donated by the local Ford dealer, taught by one of the high school's bus drivers (to get a learner's permit). Then, learning all over again in my Dad's 1958 Ford manual transmission something or other with my mother (to take the actual DMV driver test).
Good point! and I agree, but I think when the stress interferes with the learning then its time to step it back.
One of the first things you're told when you start driving on a race track is "only drive as fast as you're comfortable with because you won't learn if you're scared".
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