Lauren Jeffery wrote 07/14/2010 09:41 AM Jumping bean #284683 - 07/14/2010 09:41 AM
Lauren Jeffery Webboard User Reg: 01-16-2010 Posts: 1389 Loc: Offline	My dog doesn't jump on people anymore, and hasn't since she was a little puppy. But when people approach us she gets all excited and hops around. Sometimes jumping straight up. It is especially pronounced when she is on lead, and can't get to them. Off lead she will just do a little hop and then be flirty with them. Whats the right way to handle this? I ask people to ignore her and not pet, but they don't always listen to me so the result is very inconsistent. Should I still be telling her "off" even though she isn't actually jumping on them? Or Should I set up training scenarios with people who will actually listen? I try my best to not even get in the situation, but its a given that when I have to stop walking to wait for a crossing light or something that somebody will approach.
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Jessica Pedicord wrote 07/14/2010 09:56 AM Re: Jumping bean [Re: Lauren Jeffery ] #284688 - 07/14/2010 09:56 AM
Jessica Pedicord Webboard User Reg: 10-29-2009 Posts: 610 Loc: SouthWestern PA Offline	I drilled into my dogs head, from a very early age, to sit anytime he gets a petting. Whether it be from me or a stranger, there's no touching till his bum is on the floor. When he meets a child, it is only in a down. He has a tendency to lift a paw when he is touched and I don't want kids getting a paw to the face. I also ask him to watch me as the person approaches so he doesn't get ants in his pants. He knows that they are there but he doesn't fixate on them enough to excite himself. I also used to make him sit with me at the exit to a busy local produce store just to desensitize him to new people coming and going. So new people aren't really exciting to him. If I'm on the street and some idiot ignores me and tries to pet him before I address them, I just blurt out that he isn't friendly and their hands disappear really quick. So maybe its wrong of me to lie, but it gets the job done.
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Lynne Barrows wrote 07/14/2010 10:06 AM Re: Jumping bean [Re: Lauren Jeffery ] #284690 - 07/14/2010 10:06 AM
Lynne Barrows Webboard User Reg: 09-22-2007 Posts: 2531 Loc: S. Florida Offline	Quote: lauren jeffery Whats the right way to handle this? I ask people to ignore her and not pet, but they don't always listen to me so the result is very inconsistent. Should I still be telling her "off" even though she isn't actually jumping on them? Or Should I set up training scenarios with people who will actually listen? Lauren, I have had some success in setting up training scenarios with helpful neighbors who will follow directions, and this has helped. She's still terribly reactive (bouncy, wiggly) with men though. And to exacerbate that problem, I find that most men who like dogs do not seem to be able to follow the simple instructions of 'Please don't talk to her or pet her.' (all my training sessions have been with women, so that's part of the problem) I never had any success with 'off' in this scenario. Putting her in a sit works better for me. So, yes, to two of your questions. Keep telling people not to pet or talk to her, and definately set up some practice sessions.
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steve strom wrote 07/14/2010 10:10 AM Re: Jumping bean [Re: Lauren Jeffery ] #284691 - 07/14/2010 10:10 AM
steve strom Webboard User Reg: 03-17-2006 Posts: 4203 Loc: Offline	A pre-emptive off or leave it command when she looks at someone is good. Then sit or heel or whatever you want her to do works.
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Lauren Jeffery wrote 07/14/2010 10:13 AM Re: Jumping bean [Re: Jessica Pedicord ] #284692 - 07/14/2010 10:13 AM
Lauren Jeffery Webboard User Reg: 01-16-2010 Posts: 1389 Loc: Offline	Thanks Jessica. I have tried since she was little to get this down, but everybody undid all my work. My friends and family are the worst offenders. No matter what i asked of them or how mad I got they would still get her all worked up because they thought it was cute. Then they'd give me the "She's just a puppy!" routine. I think it makes them feel special because she is such a flirt. Its also been hard with strangers because this is such a busy neighborhood. That is getting better now that she is big and most people are more cautious, but I still have all these people making that stupid clicking noise when we pass. Kids are no problem, because I have always had the strict no pet rule with them. People listen more readily when their children are involved. If kids approach I down her. People who undo your training suck.
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Anne Jones wrote 07/14/2010 10:22 AM Re: Jumping bean [Re: Lynne Barrows ] #284696 - 07/14/2010 10:22 AM
Anne Jones Webboard User Reg: 04-29-2004 Posts: 3825 Loc: Northeast Offline	Just put the dog in a down, use a watch me command if needed to keep the dogs focus on you. If you tell someone not to touch your dog & they move to do that...step into their path & repeat that I don't let people pet my dog. Period. Your dog your rules. If they still have their hands out...tell them that your dog is not freindly like Lynn said she does. Then turn & walk away in the other direction if you have to. NO ONE touches my dogs unless I let them. My dogs can be very mouthy when playing or get excited...I am NOT going to let some idot accuse my dogs of biting them & sue me because they are stupid & can't follow directions. Keep them away. Just my way. MY DOGS...MY RULES
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Lauren Jeffery wrote 07/14/2010 10:27 AM Re: Jumping bean [Re: Lynne Barrows ] #284698 - 07/14/2010 10:27 AM
Lauren Jeffery Webboard User Reg: 01-16-2010 Posts: 1389 Loc: Offline	So Lynne, With the practice scenarios did you have the people turn around and walk away until she settled down? How did you do it? Thanks
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Lauren Jeffery wrote 07/14/2010 10:40 AM Re: Jumping bean [Re: Anne Jones ] #284703 - 07/14/2010 10:40 AM
Lauren Jeffery Webboard User Reg: 01-16-2010 Posts: 1389 Loc: Offline	Quote: anne jones If you tell someone not to touch your dog & they move to do that...step into their path & repeat that I don't let people pet my dog. Period. I might just have to consider everyone a potential frenemy in regards to this situation. My friends, family and neighbors might just not get to play with the "puppy" anymore unless they follow the rules. They are the worst when it comes to this. They start getting her all crazy before they even get to us.  Quote: anne jones NO ONE touches my dogs unless I let them. My dogs can be very mouthy when playing or get excited...I am NOT going to let some idot accuse my dogs of biting them & sue me because they are stupid & can't follow directions. Exactly my fear.
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Lynne Barrows wrote 07/14/2010 01:23 PM Re: Jumping bean [Re: Lauren Jeffery ] #284743 - 07/14/2010 01:23 PM
Lynne Barrows Webboard User Reg: 09-22-2007 Posts: 2531 Loc: S. Florida Offline	Quote: Lauren Jeffery So Lynne, With the practice scenarios did you have the people turn around and walk away until she settled down? How did you do it? Thanks I would approach the person (to whom I had given instructions ahead of time, which were to cross their arms, don't look directly at the dog, don't talk to the dog)with Chula on a leash and put her in a sit once I reached the person. Once she sat, I would begin to carry on a conversation with the person. If she jumped or broke her sit, the person would turn their body away from Chula. I would put her in a sit again (mark and reward) and start again. I can now approach people and she doesn't jump, as long as they don't talk to her. (still have some work to do there!) Another thing you can do is, once she's in a sit, step on the leash so that she can't move around much. When people ask me if they can pet her I say no, that we're still working on her manners and she jumps when she's petted.
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