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#304640 - 11/27/2010 09:26 AM |
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Hello I have a question regarding different dog breeds. Is there some breeds that are more exictable/energetic than others or is it owner/handler based?
My dog is a six year old boxer that has not settled down, although my wife as a puppy would encourage, excite him before they left the house etc. to do any activity.
I am wondering if it is us or just the breed in general?
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#304644 - 11/27/2010 11:42 AM |
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#304648 - 11/27/2010 12:11 PM |
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Yes to both? or to which one were you referring to?
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#304652 - 11/27/2010 01:32 PM |
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Yes to both? or to which one were you referring to? (since Dennis is a man of few words, I'll give it a shot... )
Some breeds can be more excitable than others, but how you deal with that excitability is just as important (more, probably) in shaping the dog's behavior.
If your wife encouraged excitable behavior from your boxer every time she took him for a walk, or a car ride, or came home, or whatever, then you really can't expect any other behavior from him.
Can you be more specific about his behavior? Do you want to change it?
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#304660 - 11/27/2010 05:32 PM |
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Well it is more of a greeting thing, with friends, family,and people who come to the door. Wild behavior, jumping around, scrambling, he will listen and does know the basic commands, but has virtually no self-control. I find he is very high energy ; say we are going outside to do whatever he is shaking/vibrating to get out to get to his ball, I think he has a tremendous prey drive but I could be mistaking that behavior as prey drive.
Yes I would like to change this behavior, it has essentially shaped my relationship with the dog in a negative way and he possibly feels that, but I would be willing to put some work into it as I do like the dog I just do not have a very close bond with him.
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#304662 - 11/27/2010 05:53 PM |
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In my experience some breeds are higher energy (boxers are one of those) and some individuals have less self control(generally I find it much easier to teach a pup or young dog) . Generally any dog can be taught self control but some take more work than others as some seem more obtuse. At the point of a six year old boxer I would say....good luck. I have met several boxers that calmed down when they got to 8 or 10 yrs old.
Go back to simple postitive reinforcing of calm control. Or crate him when he is being a numb nuts. Six years of learning to do this is not going to train away in a few months.
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#304665 - 11/27/2010 06:10 PM |
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Mark,
What would you prefer him to do at these times? You are smart to realize the bond does suffer if you spend a great deal of time aggravated by your dog's behavior.
IMO I think your first step should be to envision what behavior it is you want instead of his current antics and then work from there.
I've found teaching an imcompatible behavior to replace the annoying one is easier than eradicating an ingrained response.
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#304666 - 11/27/2010 06:19 PM |
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Well it is more of a greeting thing, with friends, family,and people who come to the door. Wild behavior, jumping around, scrambling, he will listen and does know the basic commands, but has virtually no self-control. I find he is very high energy ; say we are going outside to do whatever he is shaking/vibrating to get out to get to his ball, I think he has a tremendous prey drive but I could be mistaking that behavior as prey drive.
Yes I would like to change this behavior, it has essentially shaped my relationship with the dog in a negative way and he possibly feels that, but I would be willing to put some work into it as I do like the dog I just do not have a very close bond with him.
As others have mentioned, teaching (marker training) what you DO want is the way to go. This is going to enhance your bond, too.
There's a lot to consider about guest-behavior. It's all manageable. So the guest-behavior is the major item?
How much structured brisk exercise does he get?
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#304669 - 11/27/2010 07:09 PM |
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There's a lot to consider about guest-behavior. It's all manageable. So the guest-behavior is the major item?
You can start by instructing guests and family not to look at, talk or make eye contact with the dog when they come in the house. Preferably you have given these instructions prior to them coming in the house. This one thing will really help you to work on the dog's greeting behavior.
Do you know about marker training? (clicker training without the clicker)
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#304681 - 11/28/2010 05:47 AM |
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Yes it is mostly when people come over that gets annoying for me, they think that it is great he is so happy to see them and encourage it.
As far as marker training I am fairly novice but I do have the basic concept.
I can get him in a sit or down easy enough, and when he is in the sit or down he really seems put out, almost like he is depressed, if there is a such a thing in the dog world...
I am going to tell the people who I know are coming over not to look or pay any attention to him, I have tried this in the past and they are okay for a minute or two and the say "Ohh Sull your a good dog," as if I am being an unruly dictator.
I think I will do some more research on marker training.
As far as exercise goes no amountthatI have tried seem to discourage the greeting behavior issue, although it does take the edge off off him, I have tried cycling for 3-4 km daily but cannot do that any more as he has a small limp in his back left leg after once around now, so it is more just 2-3 km walk.
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