"Think of it this way, If everytime you heard the doorbell ring and then you went to it and there stood a "friend" who handed you 100.00 bucks, wouldn't you get excited to have the bell ring again.
Sometimes what we think we are doing to be good is not always right."
That is a very valid statement if the barking was caused by excitment rather than fear. But I do not think it is.
Squirting water in the face of a dog with possible nerve problems is not the most productive way of handling the situation. It will only cause problems. The purpose of squirting water in the dogs face is to extinguish a behavior by associating it with an unpleasant feeling
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Where did I ever say squirt the dog in the face? If the dog is at the door and you are coming to the door it will take quite an aim to hit it in the face.
Next, where did I say this was unpleasant for the dog? Where did I say this is a punishment.
It is a mere distraction to change the dogs focus. I will bet if you squirt a dog it will turn its head. It is now distracted and can think of something else. Like 'Quiet' or good dog or the like.
This really is a simple thing to do. You people are making it into a huge problem.
Vince, I hear you, However normally I don't see alot of difference between excitement and fear. They at times are one in the same, and are just part of that particular dogs "personality".
Also I tend to believe they are reasons we use as excuses.
"she is scared therfore she can jump at the door"
NO WAY PUT THE DOG IN A DOWN!
"she is fearful therfore she jumps at the door"
NO WAY PUT THE DOG IN A DOWN!
This person needs more of an attitude like.....
If I wanted your emotions to hinder my leadership skills I would have given them to you. Down means just that DOWN!!!!! I don't care if you are scared. Like wise I don't care if you are excited. I pay the bills in this house, I am the leader of this so called pack, I tell you when to down, get excited, get scared, yada yada yada...
Thats what Todd meant before the dog does not "know" a down command.(sorry todd if that is not what you meant)lol...
KOJAK
Spooky(you guys would call them nervy) dogs need firm leadership from the owner just as much or more the the less nervous dog. Dogs like to be led and it is the handlers job to show the firm leadership as this absolves the dog from a need for action. "oh good - the food god is getting the door and my job is to lie down over here cause he told me too" The firmer you are the more confident it will make your dog. People tend to mollycoddle shy dogs and this just makes them act all the worse. As for the water thing, I don't know of any dog that is so spooky that they will become completely unhinged at a little squirt of water- it is just a distraction and does the same thing as a throwing chain or rattle can in a less alarming way. Dogs get into a course of action and tend to zone out so you have to redirect their attention back from the situation at the door to the command that is being given. just my 2 cents US (1.5 cents Cdn)
Obedience train the dog and re-direct the barking into a desired behavior like a down-stay. Get Ed's basic obedience tape if you want to learn the proper steps to obedience train a dog. Then if other issues arise with the barking, ask more questions. Since there is the open issue of the squirt bottle, out of respect I'll see if Vince or Todd has anything else to add then I think it's definately time to close this thread.
Chuck F.,
Just think of the number of post on the so many different ways to re-direct this pups behavior.
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