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				#27400 - 06/27/2002 01:23 PM | 
			
			
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				Originally posted by andring:In other words, he is never left alone for a long period of time.
 
 That is your problem right there. 
       We do make a big fuss over him when we return.     That does not help.
 
Your dog is so used to getting to go everywhere with you, that he is displeased when he does not get to go.  He is showing you his displeasure, and attempting to influence you to take him with.  I agree with the crating idea.
 
The making a big fuss when you return only serves to add too much emphasis on your comings and goings, which only feeds into whatever stress or anxiety he is experiencing.  You should ignore him for the first five minutes after returning home.  Come in, say hello in a casual tone, no big excitement, put your things away, take off your shoes, etc.  After you've been home for about five minutes, then give the dog some attention, but do not get him over excited.  Just take him out to play or do some obedience or whatever.								
				
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				What a sweetheart you have. You are very lucky to have such a good dog! It really does sound to me anyway that he is just protesting the leaving and coming actions. I think you really need to pull that old crate back out and do a bit of touch up training, I also noticed you say you make a big fuss when you return. This is a no no, you should be ignoring him like he is just a piece of spare slobber machine for about 5 to 10 min when you return, THEN you can acknoledge his existince, but don't fuss, you can do that later on when playing. It will be hard, with a leaning tower of Rottenwhiner at your feet, but you can do it! 
I also think since you take him everywhere, he is not used to being alone, and letting you know that is not cool. You should begin to again, crate/or not, and increase the times you are gone. This way 5 or 6 hours will be nothing to him.								
				
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				Good post L. we must have been typing at the same time! Well good to see we are on the same page! Is it possible he has a strong prey/herding drive as well.    Forgot this one! Yes it is possible, your going to have to test that out, if he is going from room to room checking on the pack, I would yes for sure to hearding instinct. Prey drive is very likley, does he chase stuff with a one track mind?								
				
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				Yes, looks like we were thinking the same thing at the same time.								
				
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				Thanks for the advice, guess I'll get the ol crate out again.   
Just one more piece of advice from all of you experts.  How should we handle this thing with the truck?   Would a squirt gun do or should I work on the surprise treats?   I don't know if I mentioned this or not but he has also learned to blow the truck horn when I leave the brat in the truck.  I will be in the grocery store and one of the guys will come and tell me that Reuben is blowing his horn again.
 
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				I suggest you reverse the activities just before leaving, and coming home.  I leave my dog with a nice big juicy raw knuckle bone, which he happily places himself in the kennel, waiting.  I then close the door on him and leave.  That is the only time he gets one of these "wonderful" treats. When I come home, it's no big deal with me, just a request to slow it up, and a pat on the head.  So, I've accentuated the wonderful things that can happen when I leave, and keep things rather mundane upon my return.  Also, try to keep a regular exercise routine that tires him out at least every second day (if he's sound.)  I drive in the dog cart three miles in 30 minutes every other day.....sure helps to reduce anxiety.  I can see it build if I miss a couple days of exercise.  Susan								
				
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				Rae, You could not ask for better information then already given. 
Great post by everyone.  <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />  
 
Butch:  I would give the down stay command as soon as you enter the home.  Remove yourself from his view.  Release from command after as few minutes.  Continue to ignore until you can see he is settled down.
 
As Lonny said, sounds like a great Rott.
 
I like the Horn Blowing, he always gets attention after blowing the horn.  Doesn't he.
 
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				 I would crate him in the truck as well. Who needs a barking Rott in your face while you are trying to drive.  Just in case you missed it in my first post
     I will be in the grocery store and one of the guys will come and tell me that Reuben is blowing his horn again. God is that ever funny!  <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />    <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />								
				
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