Daniel Fernando Webboard User Reg: 05-21-2010
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When I train my dog to sit, I keep the treats in one hand, pushing the treats in front of her nose and when her butt touch the ground (sit position), I say SIT and release the treats (reward her).
Does that count as marker training?
Because I found it easier for me to train my dog that way rather than using clicker or the word 'Yes' and introduce the command later.
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No that's not marker training - that's luring. If you'd said sit, yes or yes, sit it would be marker training.
I tend to start the simple things like that and introduce markers later but most people probably have a different opinion.
You don't suck - there's such a thing as being a beginner and a first time. I would read all the info. you can find on here about marker training if that's what you wish. I think you don't fully understand the concept yet by your question, so more research is in order.
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When I train my dog to sit, I keep the treats in one hand, pushing the treats in front of her nose and when her butt touch the ground (sit position), I say SIT and release the treats (reward her).
Does that count as marker training?
Because I found it easier for me to train my dog that way rather than using clicker or the word 'Yes' and introduce the command later.
im sux and want to learn more
I could be mistaken but to me this sounds more like bribery than a reward for doing a behavior. There really isn't any marker in my opinion. And, I'm wondering how you'll fade the food and what will happen if you give a command without showing the dog food.
Wendy Lefebvre Webboard User Reg: 12-08-2005
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You don't use the command as the Mark.
The mark is what you use to let the dog know he has done what you asked him to do.
You've only confused the dog by using the command word as the mark.
If you are going to start marker training....you need a phase of loading the marker. This is what you do to teach the dog that when you "click" or say "yes" or "dingbat" it means he's going to get something good.
Brent Petersen Webboard User Reg: 09-16-2010
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The dvd's on marker training are worth every penny if you can afford them I would get them. If your not using a marker word like yes or a clicker it's not marker training. The dog needs to learn that whenever you say your word or click he is going to get a reward. (right now your dog might associate the word sit with the reward but what happens when you switch to a new behavior and command) Also the mark is a bridge that gives you a little more time to get the reward to your dog because its such a narrow window to reward a behavior.
I'm not the best person to explain this because I've only been doing this for about a year, but I would recommend taking the time to learn how to do it properly. When you both figure it out it's the coolest thing ever! You and your dog will have your own language and you can communicate exactly what you want from your dog and he will have fun doing it even if he makes a few mistakes. Good luck!
Daniel Fernando Webboard User Reg: 05-21-2010
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i need to learn more abt marker training.
I trained Eva with clicker to touch my hand, she know the touch command means touch my hand with her nose and after that idk where I need to go with that command.
Daniel, the beauty of Marker training is that it does two things (at least); it teaches your dog to THINK and get mentally involved in the training session, and it literally MARKS (hense the clicker or "yes") the moment they did what you wanted them to do.
This becomes more and more important when you think of trying to train your dog to do something like jumping a hurdle... you can't be there to reward the moment they jump - but if they hear the MARK they have learned that means what they did at that MOMENT is what you wanted - and what they will be rewarded for when they get back to you. I hope this helps explain the difference between luring the dog into a position (nothing wrong with that - just not marker training) and actually marking a behavior the moment it is offered.
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