Patricia Moreno wrote 10/26/2001 05:14 AM drop on recall #29520 - 10/26/2001 05:14 AM
Patricia Moreno Webboard User Reg: 08-12-2001 Posts: 26 Loc: Offline	Ok guys. My male GSD & I are having a little trouble with this one. I can't get a reliable drop on recall. I have tried using the drop that is used in graduate novice, I am tried throwing a sock with dried beans right in front of him, I have tried random downs, I have tried using a very long stick with peanut butter. He does this one very well but then when I take away the stick & the peanut butter, he says "see you". Any other suggestions. He is doing the dumpbell perfectly & I would think this is a much harder exercise. Patricia
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valkyrie wrote 10/26/2001 08:54 AM Re: drop on recall [Re: Patricia Moreno ] #29521 - 10/26/2001 08:54 AM
valkyrie Webboard User Reg: 08-09-2001 Posts: 34 Loc: Texas Offline	Here's a thought, if you can get someone to help you... Put him on a training collar and longline. Have the other person behind the dog, and call him to you. Give the "drop" command, and have the helper immediately halt the dog using the longline. Since the line would be pulling thru his hands, he could simply grasp the line firmly a second after the command, giving the dog a correction, which you could follow up on with a verbal correction. Timing, of course, is everything, so get an experienced person to help. A smart dog (read "GSD" <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> ) will realize quickly when he is on the training line and when he is not, but if you use this method consistently for several weeks ANYTIME you do the drop, it will help. Using verbal corrections WITH the physical corrections sets the groundwork for him responding to the verbal corrections ONLY as if he had the physical correction as well, which helps with off-lead work. Beth Firestorm Kennels - GSDs
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Richard Cannon wrote 10/26/2001 09:50 AM Re: drop on recall [Re: Patricia Moreno ] #29522 - 10/26/2001 09:50 AM
Richard Cannon Webboard User Reg: 07-17-2001 Posts: 1496 Loc: Offline	I teach this a little different. I give the dog a recall and then run from the dog. When it is comming at me hard I turn around and run at the dog and give it an out or no and down or sit command (I teach both). I have previously used random sit and down commands and have that fairly reliable. I use out a little differently than most people. For my dogs out is a "stop what ever you are doing" command, rather than just a stop biting command and it has been taught since they are puppies. The shock of you running back at them like a mad man shocks the dog enough that they will usually stop and down right where they are. As they start to do the exercise consistantly do less running each way. One thing I have noticed is that most dogs prefer to either sit or down. I teach that command first. You can identify what the dog prefers by watching what they do when they are bored. If you can't be a Good Example,then You'll just have to Serve as a Horrible Warning. Catherine Aird.
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valkyrie wrote 10/26/2001 11:51 AM Re: drop on recall [Re: Patricia Moreno ] #29523 - 10/26/2001 11:51 AM
valkyrie Webboard User Reg: 08-09-2001 Posts: 34 Loc: Texas Offline	I agree that moving TOWARDS the dog is helpful if you are working alone. I usually am, so I do this sometimes as well. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> The only difficulty with working alone is that your dog may decide you want to play chase rather than have him drop when you move back toward him. Just make sure you give the "drop" command BEFORE you go charging back towards your dog, so that you do not inhibit his "come"! Don't get ahead of yourself!! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> Beth Firestorm Kennels - GSDs
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Patricia Moreno wrote 10/26/2001 05:14 PM Re: drop on recall [Re: Patricia Moreno ] #29524 - 10/26/2001 05:14 PM
Patricia Moreno Webboard User Reg: 08-12-2001 Posts: 26 Loc: Offline	Thank you! We will give it a try again tomorrow. Patricia
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