Jodi Moen Webboard User Reg: 12-28-2010
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Amber is continuing to do well with redirection, had a bout of illness that knocked the stuffing out of her for a couple of weeks. One issue that she had was being reactive in the car when another dog passed, this was an issue because we have 2 people in the neighborhood with seeing eye dogs, lately for some odd reason (I don't know if its the training or her maturing) when she gets reactive in the car I have told her to "Come" and she will turn around and refocus on me, and if I am outside of the car and a dog appears will actually stop and just watch if I say no. We're still plugging away, It is amazing how much I've grown to love this silly, reactive pup.
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ian bunbury Webboard User Reg: 01-19-2012
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yer telling her to " come " in the car ?
haven't you just bastardized your " come " command ?
she wouldn't respond if you had just said " no " to discourage the behaviour you didn't want ?
if i'm reading the whole story right , i think perhaps the reason she responded to " come " was because you were putting out a command that was out of context with the particular environment and situation that she was normally used to hearing it in , so she was distracted / confused enough to refrain from the behaviour she was performing .
i'd be interested if it has / will have any effect on your actual recall . . .
side note : hector will only bark at other dogs outside the car if they appear to be good playmates . little dogs , lazy looking dogs he won't even pay attention to .
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Quote: ian bunbury
haven't you just bastardized your " come " command ?
Maybe. Maybe not.
I use some commands (like "wait") for different behaviors in different circumstances, and my dog knows what I'm expecting in each situation. I have several proximity commands ("stay", "this way"), which require patterned behavior and problem-solving, rather than a specific behavior.
Also, I have multiple recalls, including a whistle. "Come", in my training, means very specifically "front and center" and I can use it when moving the dog from front to heel to place, or vice-versa, or in any order. I use this command to get solid front position on the OB field in recalls. However, on an off-leash romp I can use proximity cues to bring her in or redirect her.
Dogs' vocabularies can sometimes, IMHO, be more flexible than we are led to believe
Jodi Moen Webboard User Reg: 12-28-2010
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It seems I can't win on this list
I use come as part of Amber's BAT- when we see another dog while walking, I use that word to let her know she is to stop lunging, barking or whatever else she is doing,and sje is to come to me. in the car since I have very little control the come command is used for her to turn around and focus on ME! Not the dog to the side of her, behind her or above her. Come means come to me! I'm not using it as a no, I use no in specific circumstances when I can control the outcome if she comntinues doing what she wants. When loose she doesn't get more than 15 feet away from me and I have had no issues with her coming when I call. If thats bastardizing a command then I'll just continue to do so.
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Jodi Moen Webboard User Reg: 12-28-2010
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Hi Steve, I'm trying to stick to a positive reinforcement approach so I haven't been using physical corrections. Amber seems more sensitive to tone of voice so a stern NO will usually stop the undesired behavior and then I'll reward the positive, usually with a toy.
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I understand about the interupting with a No, or Come, but what I think will be tough is the way barking at someone from the car where they feel kinda safe and usually what they're barking at going away, is pretty rewarding.
Maybe one command like leave it that has some consequence, like a correction to make them avoid doing that again, will be needed because they were already rewarded for the positive before you said no.
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