About a year ago I had to put Harley off the raw feed due to supplier issue.

I had a dry food that worked well for him, local freeze dry stuff. But they have stop production now he is since the summer on Canine caviar grain free.

He has a lot of fart and he is losing weight. He also seem to need to eat stuff. He will eat horse poo, he used to nibble on the poo but now he is wild, he will go for grass to and any food stuff that may hit the ground. His poo are normal but he seem to have to go a lot. He does not drink more water but he will need to go out over night to poo.

He get 4 cups a day, as per the bag he should be on 3 cups per day.

The feed store suggest a higher protein food but one trainer that I normal trust say to put him on the grocery store feed.

That trainer as dog on raw or dry food but cannot supply raw food as he "grow" his own.

Any idea. TOTW does not work as he get rash from it.

Has he had normal poop and weight maintenance and no pica (eating weird non-foods) on any kibble? If so, I'd switch him to that kibble immediately.




But also, I'd want to rule out something else (EPI, SIBO, etc.).

So to check: his poop is always normal, log shaped? No cow-patties, and no odd color or odor? Any slime on it?

so poop is normal and he is only eating "food stuff" is horse poop is food to a dog.

Since on that new food his weight been dropping slowly but dropping. About 5lb in the summer.

He was good on the freeze dry food. He is the one that need a lot of food to keep his weight. The vet check him for digestive issue about 3 weeks ago. It was a blood test and it all came back normal.

Should I try a food with grain (rice) or go more toward Evo.
At the moment the binder in his food are split peas.

When he came from the shelter is was on Royal Canin and doing ok poop wise but was skin and bones.

If your vet has ruled out any underlying health issue, I would definitely be trying a different kibble. What kind of ingredients were in the freeze-dried food you used to feed him? Maybe you can find a kibble with similar ingredients.

Grains or grain-free is a controversial issue, and I think it comes down to your personal choice and what agrees best with your dog. If a company doesn't use grain, it's got to use some other carb source like peas, potatoes, tapioca, etc., and the argument can be made that none of those are foods that would be in a dog's "natural" diet. In Harley's case, I'd definitely want to try something without peas and see if things improve.

Evo is very high in protein for kibble (42 percent), and my dogs did not do well on ultra-high-protein kibble. (Runny poop.) Again, this is just my experience, but my dogs do well on kibble containing the higher-quality grains or sweet potatoes. (I rotate between several brands, so they don't always get the exact same ingredients.)

Another thing to keep in mind is the calorie content of whatever kibble you choose. I was curious about Canine Caviar and looked it up online, and I see it is quite high in calories compared to some of the brands I use (as is Evo). So if you go to a lower-calorie kibble, he's going to need even more of it. My large male gets two cups twice a day, but if he needed more than that, I think I'd break it up into three meals a day.

Just change Harley's food to Canine plus Lifetime Lamb and oatmeal.

He just go his first meal and instead of walking around he is now just laying down chilling.

I think that the Canine Caviar just did not agree with him somehow.

Let see in a few days how it is working.

The freeze dry food would be very hard to find in kibbles. It was basic (chicken, beef, fish, some fruits and veggies, chick peas, and vitamin and mineral).

Ariane, just wondering how Harley has been doing on the new food these last couple weeks. Are things improving?

He seem happy, gain some weight.
Some how he does better with 2 big meals instead of my first plan of 2 meals and 2 snacks.

He get 6 cups per day, so 3 and 3. He is as active as normal but he act less starved.

I'm glad to hear things are moving in a positive direction. Whatever works!