I will add that I've seen incorrect e-collar introduction that created superstitious behavior.
Example
The dog get buzzed before it's introduced correctly and the dog associates the buzz to the spot it's standing and refuses to go near that particular spot.
Soooo many ways it can go wrong when not done correctly.
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Early in my e-collar use, I slapped the collar on a dog and started correcting. It was an early TT model with only 7 settings. I stimmed the dog after a recall refusal. He reacted profoundly, barking, cowering and returning to me. I felt pretty bad.
He ended up afraid of the gate in the back yard that he was standing next to when I corrected him. No association was made to the recall refusal. So the dog didn't learn anything except that the gate in the back yard bites. It effected him for quite a while. It took a lot of work to counter condition him to the gate.
I'm very careful how I do e-collar introductions, and I never just wing it. I always have a plan. It takes longer than it could with some dogs, but it's a matter of a day worth of training, sometimes less. Small potatoes in the grand scheme of things.
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Put the e collar away, Brianah. I have been working with a 16 year old deaf dog for the past 6 months, seriously, it's not that difficult, it's not needed.
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Quote: Betty Waldron
Quote: Brianah Maloney
Im telling you, and 4 other dog people who where PRESENT, would tell you...I have 4 other "dog people" who SAW the entire thing. And she was NON aware of stim. Including the owner of the collar.
Perhaps these 4 qualified dog people who were present could of answered your question if she could feel it and why she may not of been exhibiting signs of "PAIN"...
And while they do that you may want to have them explain what the terms stress and avoidance mean in dog training.
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Re: Old dog, lay down. What ecollar?
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