What kind of papers would a white GSd have?

While gathering firewood a couple near by saw my dogs running in the fields, I called them back from some 30-40 yrds away and released them several times, before having them jump through the gap I left between the stacked wood and the side of the jeep's cargo hull. This couple came by and asked if I'd like to breed my Male GSD.
They explained that the male GSD that they had been using had passed away. They had their white female ASD/GSD with them, she was pretty and well mannered.

They informed me that my dog looked smart, strong, beauitful and had good body movement. How is that from recovering from sore joints and limping rear end, two months ago? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

They asked me if my dog was papered? I told them his parents were but I didn't purchase the papers, but had a corbon copy of his pedigree.

This ended the conversation but brought about another question. What kind of papers would a white ASD or GSD have??? (I'm assuming AKC or WKC), Last I heard AKC doesn't recognize white ASD do they?? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

I wouldn't breed my dog to a white GSD anyway but
the standard colors I might. I'd like to have another Matt, though I've heard here that there is no garantee that a dog could reproduce himself.

AKC does register white GSDs. As just that. A GSD whose color is White. The AKC doesn't care if the dogs is green with purple spots as long as both parents are registered, all paperwork is in order and your check doesn't bounce.

I see traces of white ASD breeding to normal GSD dogs all the time, here. Sometimes I go out puppy shopping and half the puppies are white or a funny palomino color, most you can tell will be saddle bagged.

Its kinda hard my dog as a puppy started out blackish brown sable. Both parents were saddle bagged, and so is he now.

And there is a market for the white GSD going for $800 - $1000, in the newspapers.

I wish the breeders would post what color the parents are before I drove way the hell out in the country to find that the Dad or Mom is a White CSD/ASD instead of a GSD. I need to start asking by phone, first.

I'd really like the Red&black, or Black, Brown sable and most deep tinted colored saddel bag dogs with very little rear anglarlation.

I bought a black female 2 yrs. ago and the breeder lied about the 1st shots or the shots were too deluited. Long story short the puppy die from Provo within a month in a half. I thought it was a good deal I mean an old country farmer couple that took my money and address information to send the dogs paper work. I never got the paper work almost like they knew something. When I called I usually got the answering service or I'd be on hold waiting for the male, we spoke once and he said that he had only 1 other similar complaint out a litter of 9.

Both parents were on the grounds, the father had a large head and almost black except for his chest, some of his muzzle and under carriage, the Mom was a black & tan. At 9 weeks this pups ears were almost standing.

Its buyer beware out here!

tracy's right. AKC registers GSDs that are white. they are disqualified from the breed ring however. maybe this is why people think they aren't "recognized". whites can be entered in other events, like obedience or a tracking test.

Just dont even attempt to protection train or use this dog for working purposes. White GSD's have NO genetics for working. They only make pets.

Michael, I just cannot sit on this one.


The presumption that and INDIVIDUAL white GSD cannot work because ALL white GSDs have "bad" genetics is ludicrous. Yes, there are problems with the population due to the extensive inbreeding required to get there and that makes the population of white GSDs genetically inferior.

It does NOT mean that one outstanding GSD who is white cannot work -- even if you should NOT breed this animal --- any more than it means ALL offspring of two properly bred BSP participants, with incredible genetics will have the potential to compete at that level.

I just think there is an element of statistics at play here -- the odds of getting a great white GSD are MUCH lower than a great GSD out of working lines, but that does not mean it can't happen.....and why on earth would you breed for white when white does not meet the specification unless they had features needed to contribute to the gene pool, which they don't? That is good enough.

Gotta agree with Nancy!

I know a few people that handle WHITE GSD SAR dogs. Let that dog find you after a bomb blast and then you go ahead and tell it to send a "real" dog because white ones can't work.
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I should have been more specific. I know a lot of people on this board will back me up. White GSD's "generally" are not bred for drive. It is rare that you find a white GSD that has stable temperaments, extreme prey drive, not weak nerved. Read above, I said "generally". Maybe you got lucky and got a good white GSD.

For protection work, or schutzhund, or even patrol work, I would say 99 percent of all cannot do the work. They arent "bred" for that kind of work generally.

I have heard of some white GSD's that can do SAR or bomb/narcotic detection but not protection nor sport.. I should have clarified myself a little better.

Well I think all white GSDs... with or without working ability should be culled at birth and the parents fixed <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

We have enough mutts in this world <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Sammy I hear years ago thats just how it was done.
Crule but fair I guess.

Here in America & Canada there is a demand for this type dog and even a standard the pink nose is disqualifed. I had an Uncle that bred white Shepherds for some reason, he said it was very profitable. Don't hate him he was only trying to make a buck. I tried to tell him but he told me "BS talks and Money walks", an old Black saying.

He showed me some old newspaper clipping that Hilter had started the breeding of white Shepherds, it even had a Webiste address. Funny thing is that it was all text no pictures of AH with a white dog, there plenty of photo of WSD.

History points out and all the pictures I've seen Hilter in with a GSD or his army with most where Black and tan or Sable.

Where did this nonsene come from? Where ever it came from it sure made Unc some dust. The shame of it all, him in his Benze and 65 foot sail bboat...
SShame, Shame. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />