Yes, this breeding was an accident; I was wondering if you thought there was a real goal looking at the grandparents or further back. But I think I got my questions answered; thanks everyone....Just makes me realize there's even more to learn than I had thought about. But that's a really exciting thing. Thanks all....
I think the only real time you can speak of a breeding "goal," however, is when you take bitch X to dog Y for the expressed purpose of producing litter XY--a litter that ostensibly will improve the breed or at least not damage it. Otherwise there is no goal. That's why there are so many terrible dogs out there--"you have a GSD, I have a GSD, let's breed 'em and make great money on the pups!" <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />
Your dog is the product of an accidental breeding that fortunately contained some very strong working stuff on both sides. That's not to say that your pup is a "sure thing"--but the odds are at least stacked in her favor.
I would be less worried about what to expect, and more concerned with just getting good quality training. Being new to the sport and these genetics, it's better for you to just learn your puppy as an individual. Doing things like waiting for Rank Behaviours to start may just cause you to be too hard on her. It's a very nice pedigree, however, breeders of non-titled parents concern me. Every great dog has thrown shitters. Of course, these shitters also get bred. It's not to say your puppy's parents weren't strong dogs. It's just that not having any breed surveys or titles make things difficult to know what to expect out of your puppy. Who knows perhaps both parents couldn't be titled because of poor nerve strength. But, having the pedigree like they do, they can still sell pups.
Good luck with your new pup. Keep things fun and positive for her.
Thank you Mr. President, you are right in what you said. I just asked the questions because I find it interesting that you can tell what to expect from looking at a pedigree, like certain traits. It must be great to know, when you're looking for a dog, to look at the pedigree and know what you want in the dog, and by knowing dogs of the past and what they produce, you'll know what to expect from the puppy you select.
Incidentally, the breeding was an accident; the parents were both less than 18 months when it happened. Thanks for your comments, I'm just trying to learn as much as I can and am damn glad for this board with all the knowledge on it.....
I kinda look at pedigrees as I would a fortune teller. We want to believe all the good stuff and hear more, but turn our heads to the bad. While the pedigree is a road map of sorts, it really isn't the end-all-be-all because of the different dogs in each litter.
Just out of curiosity is the breeder at least planning to title the parents at some point? or were they intended to be a breed- pair at a later point? If so, then your "breeder" would be able to tell you what he was planning to do when he bought the two and before the male found his scent motivation. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
I don't want to sound pessimistic about your female puppy at all. Just, like to be careful with someone like yourself. There are a lot of salesman out there. You do have alot of merit to what you say though. Many training decoys can look at a dogs pedigree and have some clue as to how far to go in certian drives. I have seen Kevin Sheldahl do this first hand. I have also talked with European breeders who exactly what problems we were having with certain dogs due to their pedigrees. It is fascinating.
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