Melanie Williams-Parsons wrote 01/26/2005 09:00 PM AKC Registration Question #69134 - 01/26/2005 09:00 PM
Melanie Williams-Parsons Webboard User Reg: 01-21-2005 Posts: 16 Loc: New Mexico, USA Offline	If you get a pup that is not AKC registered because the dam is an import, and the contract on your pup says "AKC Registration IN PROCESS" (after you've been told the pup was already AKC registered, no less!)doesn't that mean if something were to happen to the breeder, that you would never see your AKC registration since only the breeder can register the litter? ALSO, if you get limited registration, same thing, it can never be lifted if something happens to the owner/breeder of the dam and sire? Can anyone give me commonly accepted terms for "IN PROCESS" in regards to AKC registration of a pup? I have found that this breeder has done this to many others besides myself. NO registration whatsoever, or limited at best. Melanie
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Brennan Reese wrote 01/26/2005 10:51 PM Re: AKC Registration Question [Re: Melanie Williams-Parsons ] #69135 - 01/26/2005 10:51 PM
Brennan Reese Webboard User Reg: 02-02-2004 Posts: 158 Loc: Greensboro, NC Offline	I'll give you the same advice I was given by a breeder. Go to the AKC's website and get their number, it's I believe a 919 area code #, and call and talk to a rep. on the phone. I did this and they helped me out a lot. Brennan Reese
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Deb Davis wrote 01/28/2005 09:55 AM Re: AKC Registration Question [Re: Melanie Williams-Parsons ] #69136 - 01/28/2005 09:55 AM
Deb Davis Webboard User Reg: 12-27-2004 Posts: 16 Loc: Offline	AKC has a toll free number: (888) 445-2909. You can also post emails directly to their various departments - links provided at their website - - http://www.akc.org. Good luck!
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Sue DiCero wrote 01/28/2005 10:32 AM Re: AKC Registration Question [Re: Melanie Williams-Parsons ] #69137 - 01/28/2005 10:32 AM
Sue DiCero Webboard User Reg: 07-12-2001 Posts: 348 Loc: Nashville, TN and Budapest, Hungary Offline	What does your contract say in regards to limited vs full? Sue DiCero http://www.k9imports.com
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Melanie Williams-Parsons wrote 01/28/2005 11:48 PM Re: AKC Registration Question [Re: Melanie Williams-Parsons ] #69138 - 01/28/2005 11:48 PM
Melanie Williams-Parsons Webboard User Reg: 01-21-2005 Posts: 16 Loc: New Mexico, USA Offline	We-ellll, to begin, I was told I would receive full registration. I wouldn't pay $3850 (what I paid) for a pup with limited registration. Once I got the contract WITH the pup at the airport, which was the first I'd seen of it, in order to lift the limited registration, you have to complete a LONG list of items. Most of them are fine, but some of them are just over the top.(i.e. Correct bite and number of teeth, hip x-rays good, Vorzuglich placing at a Sieger show, Working title (SchH1 minimum), gun shyness test, "suitable mate must be approved by us, we will gladly assist you in finding a compatible mate", dog must be evaluated by them in person, so on and so forth. In any case, it's bogus, as the dam isn't even paid off so she's not AKC registered herself. Who knows if I'll ever see the papers on this pup. I have retained an attorney, however. It's just not been a pleasant experience, but at least I have learned a very important (albeit EXPENSIVE!) lesson and made some good friends in the process. Melanie
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Will Rambeau wrote 01/29/2005 08:44 AM Re: AKC Registration Question [Re: Melanie Williams-Parsons ] #69139 - 01/29/2005 08:44 AM
Will Rambeau Moderator Reg: 01-25-2003 Posts: 5983 Loc: Idaho Offline	Melaine, Several of us here were in much the same situation, awaiting puppy papers on a dog whose sire had not been AKC registered. I didn't recieve the puppy papers until the dog was 19 months old, and I had a lot of sleepless nights worry about the outcome of that situation - and the breeder's lack of communication with all of us didn't help things any. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> I wish you good luck in this matter, it still might work out for you, but the frustration of it sucks bigtime, I know. If you wouldn't mind, could you either post the name of the kennel that sold you the pup, or send it to me via PM here on the board? I keep extensive records of breeding keenels, both what they produce and their interactions with clients, and I strive for an accurate data base ( it's a private list that I use for recommendations and warnings for my own clients ) Thanks! Will Rambeau The Fetz dog: http://www.leerburg.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/79673/page/25
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Dan Oas wrote 01/29/2005 09:16 AM Re: AKC Registration Question [Re: Melanie Williams-Parsons ] #69140 - 01/29/2005 09:16 AM
Dan Oas Webboard User Reg: 09-21-2004 Posts: 190 Loc: MI Offline	I got a pup last may and was able to register right away. doesn't mean much anyhow,it's paper. She's has severe overbite, see http://mywebpages.comcast.net/ranidog My question is I have heard conflicting statements about whether or not the same parents should be bred again. The dentist suggested it would not be irresponsible to breed the pair again, as the likleyhood of them producing another no chin miniscule. The partner vet who did the spay, suggested that would be undesireable and irresponsible. So depending how you all feel about it, Will might want to add this breeder to his list,no? btw,Will, your mailbox is full! -DanO
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Melanie Williams-Parsons wrote 01/29/2005 10:22 AM Re: AKC Registration Question [Re: Melanie Williams-Parsons ] #69141 - 01/29/2005 10:22 AM
Melanie Williams-Parsons Webboard User Reg: 01-21-2005 Posts: 16 Loc: New Mexico, USA Offline	If it's okay by Ed Frawley, then I will post the name here, otherwise, I won't. I know he has a section specifically set up for people like this, and he says that he decides who gets posted there and who does not. SO, I will await his permission to even put it here. I will, however, send you a private email, Will. This is also true for anyone who emails me or requests it. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> -Melanie Melanie
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