Jeannette Polowski Webboard User Reg: 03-12-2002
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I saw an article in my local paper today that a private citizen raised 700$ to buy a canine service dog from the City of Poughkeepsie, NY a bullet proof vest!! IS this unusual? Do any of the officers on this board utilize this equipment on their dogs?
Apparently she was motivated by an episode of America's Most Wanted where she saw a PSD get killed in the line of duty.She called and found out that her dept had a canine, but no vest....So she got him one!
There are 2 dogs in the Town of Poughkeepsie that do have vests. I have never seen one on a dog so I was surprised.Does this hinder the dog in any way? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />
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DavidStevenson Webboard User Reg: 12-01-2001
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This topic was covered before. Ed is not a friend of those vests. If you type 'bullet proof vest' in the search field you can find it. That's how I found it again.
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I'll throw this out here again. There was a published vet report of injuries to dogs and one of the injuries that was covered was gunshot wounds. It was like 80% or somthing of all gunshot wounds to dogs were in the head or neck/chest. The place the vest doesn't cover.
I guess it makes sense, dog running at you or looking at you and you shoot it. . .where are you most likely to hit?
Just a titbit of info I found a while ago for consideration.
As mentioned, this has been discussed before. The issue is not so much that canine body armor is "bad", but that it is mostly about PR rather than realistic protection of the dogs. The advantage of the dog to LEOs is, along with his nose, his speed and agility. Six to eight pounds of constrictive and heat-trapping kevlar are certainly not going to improve these attributes.
The same $700 used to buy a vest that "looks good at camera time" but is invariably left in the trunk on callouts could be used to purchase other things needed much more by perpetually underfunded Canine Units. Unfortunately, it is not likely that some fat-assed bureaucrat will get a 15sec. spot on the local news channel because he sent two of his Canine officers and their dogs to a good training class or seminar.
This is the kind of stuff that causes Canine Supervisors to get gray hair and prickly personalities. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
David C.Frost Webboard User Reg: 01-23-2002
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Vests, uggggh, Amen on the grey hair, but then there are those that say my personality was already, a prick,uh ly
Under certain circumstances, If the timing is right, IF the bad guy can wait a minute, If, If If, a vest could be useful. In reality though; it is a look good/feelgood type of thing. It's difficult, public relations wise, to refuse an offer to help. People mean well and it is difficult to explain, just how impractical a vest can be under most situations. Just for the record however, the term is bullet resistant. As was pointed out, the large majority of KIA PSD's were from head wounds or because of the angle of attack, the bullet entered at an angle that the vest provided no protection. Which by the way, has happened with officers as well. As much as we hate to think about it, serious injury or death is an occupational hazard.
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Jeannette Polowski Webboard User Reg: 03-12-2002
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My mistake for posting in the wrong place anyway.. I guess my powers of observation were off last night!!
I didn't realize that this was a sore subject. I honestly had never seen it before and I was surprised ! I was thinking that it wouldn't be very practical, which has been confirmed by the replies I see here.
Thanks for the insight! <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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Prickly personalities, gunshot wounds and fat assed bureaucrats......wow, maybe I should find a new job without those kinds of scary hazards.....maybe, I could be a rap artist.
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