Vince, thanks for the input on my post. I was referring to what they do at the club I belong to. It looked to me like a mini-courage test like dessensitizing the dog to the crack of the whip. I didn't really look past that. Thanks for the insight and I will look for what you were talking about tonight.
I'm glad to see some opinions that vary on my question. I guess I posted it because I felt it put my young dog into defense, and I think at 11 months she is way too young for that. Her bark deepened, but she did get more attentive to the helper. She was never touched with it, but I don't see how snapping a whip would stimulate prey drive and see there is are varied opinions on that. Most dogs that I've seen react to the gun in obd. get agitated toward the person where the noise came from. Person standing still. Doesn't seem like prey to me, but only 6 years in the sport and only 1 dog to a III, I'm still really a rookie. Thanks for all the reponses.
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I don't see how snapping a whip would stimulate prey drive and see there is are varied opinions on that.
I believe I can explain this one, what stimulates the prey is chasing the whip itself in the beginning, the crack is then accociated with the game, so later when the dog puts this togther, the crack of the whip means "Yeah I get to chase this string!" Hence invoking Prey then it's a matter of switching objects, tug, sleeve etc...It's just an association to the whip, just like when you open the fridge, dog comes running looking for that bag of Turkey.
Fridge door open sound=food
Whip crack sound=bite tug/sleeve
How is that? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
Leute mögen Hunde, aber Leute LIEBEN ausgebildete Hunde!
Your prize is waiting for you at the front door. LOL.
It is not the sound per say but the association of the sound with the prey item. And unless your dog is getting hit by the whip I doubt it's triggering defense in your dog as much as insecurity. If that is not the case then it is the helper’s actions while cracking the whip not the whip that is invoking defense behavior.
LOL <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> Yeah! I won something! Perhaps not getting kicked off the board for giving bad advise!
Leute mögen Hunde, aber Leute LIEBEN ausgebildete Hunde!
if the whip is used to solely stimulate the prey drive, then why do you see it used so often in the stake out? it all depends on how you use it, like vince and doug said.
In my opinion when I crack the whip around puppies it makes the pay attention and wonder what fun things are going on that they are missing out on. Since they are tied out they get frustrated because they can't go closer to interact with the new strange object. Of course there is movement of the whip involve at the same time the sound is made. This stimulates prey/play and along with the frustration of the tie out leads to a bark which you can respond to to build the voice. From there they are in control and you react to them which building their confidence. Ed's vidio bite training puppies 101. Seems to work real good.
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