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Well, I know what I'll be doing for an hour!  Thanks, Steven!
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Re: Animals In Translation
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#177033 - 01/23/2008 06:05 PM |
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Wow, I didn't notice how old the thread was! I suppose people are just now getting to read her book 
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Re: Animals In Translation
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#185688 - 03/13/2008 01:24 AM |
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I just bought this today after eyeing it for months and months
I cant put it down, and have already come away with some understanding of an issue with Loki that was baffling me..it was worth it just for that but really I am highly impressed with this book.
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Re: Animals In Translation
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#190410 - 04/14/2008 07:24 PM |
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To be honest, I really am not enjoying this book. Much of what she claims is pure speculation or anecdotal, which is not something I would expect from a PhD.
While she seems to have a good understanding of livestock, there are many discrepancies that suggest poor editing, or rather poor understanding of basic science (genetics for one) and taxonomy. I find it very frustrating that the book synonymizes "animals" and "mammals".
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Re: Animals In Translation
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#190415 - 04/14/2008 07:52 PM |
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I don't think the book was ever intended to be an academic text.
If you wish, you may look at the university website. Much of her published work is listed there. Probably has footnotes, fifty word titles, ponderous academic prose and all else that make for very boring reading.
In any case, she has been very influential in how animals are treated in the slaugherhouse. Many large meat buyers such as McDonalds will not purchase product from a place that does not follow the principles she developed.
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Oh, I definitely acknowledge her contributions to animal welfare and humane practices.
I guess being a bio major just makes me read things written by scientists more critically lol
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#202232 - 07/18/2008 05:30 PM |
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I LOVED this book!! It was so insightful. While reading it, every page made me go oooooohhh that makes sense, or laughed, aha!, or hmm on ...my roommates thought I was crazy. I wanted to read them everything. I got my bs from Colorado State where she teaches, and plan on going back to sit in on her classes. While I didn't agree with 100% of the things she said (pink skinned dogs aren't as well bahaved as black skinned dogs) her concepts of animal thinking as a whole are brilliant!! I'm so glad to see others enjoying it as much as I did. I especially liked the talk of breeding selection, super interesting!
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Re: Animals In Translation
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#206374 - 08/19/2008 06:36 PM |
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I read this book, too. I found it a very interesting read.
Very insightful, but some problems in the book, too. Much of what she says is her opinions and ideas, a LOT of hypothesizing, which is a problem sometimes, but also good because it makes you think. She is putting in her own conclusions sometimes. Some of her info/opinions can be incorrect or debatable.
Much of the book is about all animals, a lot of farm animals, not just dogs. I did think the breeding part was very interesting, with the "rapist roosters". Good examples of the dangers of single-trait breeding. However, she seems to believe getting a mutt or mixed breed is better than a purebred, reminds me of the "hybrid vigor" idea. The writing style is hard to follow and zips around a lot.
She is a very interesting person!
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#206376 - 08/19/2008 06:47 PM |
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To be honest, I really am not enjoying this book. Much of what she claims is pure speculation or anecdotal, which is not something I would expect from a PhD.
While she seems to have a good understanding of livestock, there are many discrepancies that suggest poor editing, or rather poor understanding of basic science (genetics for one) and taxonomy. I find it very frustrating that the book synonymizes "animals" and "mammals".
Totally! Like I thought, too, waaay too much speculation and anecdotal ideas. Some of the stuff about dogs irked me. I still enjoyed it though.
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Re: Animals In Translation
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#206380 - 08/19/2008 06:53 PM |
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I also admire her more recent book, Humane Livestock Handling (from Storey Publishing).
Dr. Grandin is an amazing and inspiring example of dealing with autism.
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