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This was taken from another place on the web and has nothing to do with LeerBurg Kennels.
COLORADO – A district judge has upheld Denver’s home-rule authority to ban “pit bulls” from the city. After Governor Richardson signed HB1279, prohibiting breed-specific ordinances, into law last April, dog owners were hopeful that Denver’s ban would be overturned. The City of Denver sued the state and won, claiming they had the right to regulate animals within their boundaries. The city is expected to resume enforcement of the ban May 9th, so owners have until then to remove any “pit bulls” from the city limits. Under the ordinance, a “pit bull” is defined as an American Pit Bull Terrier, an American Staffordshire Terrier, a Staffordshire Bull Terrier or any dog displaying the majority of the physical traits of this breed.
I know this is old news now, but I want to take a closer look at this one part.
Under the ordinance, a “pit bull” is defined as an American Pit Bull Terrier, an American Staffordshire Terrier, a Staffordshire Bull Terrier or any dog displaying the majority of the physical traits of this breed
Hummm, okay, now who is going to be the one to make this judgement ( or any dog displaying the majority of the physical traits of this breed )? What about A.Bulldogs, or Boxers, or French Bulldogs, or Boston's, Corsos, or Canarys? I know to people like us, we know the diffrence between these kinds of dog, but, I run into people all day every day at petsmart that think my friends ABD is a APBT. I wonder are they going to have DRs with PHDs in K9 body types making these type calls? NO I doubt it. It is going to be some wanta be cop making $7.50 an hour, tryn to prove to there bosses what kind of job they can do. Peoples dogs are going to die over a dead beat tryn to move up the corp. latter.
O well, Ill stop now. All I can say is the "law"(if thats what we call it these day)will have to pry my cold dead hand of my dogs leash, if they ever try and come get them.
Hitler would have been proud.
David.
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#82254 - 08/11/2005 07:25 AM |
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This post should be in the dog law forum. Having said that, I'll comment as follows:
The way to combat BSL (stated many times in other threads) is to run for office and change the law. Other methods include litigation and participation in the democratic process (i.e. be vocal in a civic sense-write your congressman, etc).
From a legal standpoint, your criticism is essentially that the regulation is overly broad and vague. This is a very basic (and legitimate) due process constitutional challenge. Similar challenges have failed in other jurisdictions. In my opinion, those failures may be chalked up (to some degree) to inadequate preparation of the legal battlefield prior to verbal combat.
I am writing an article on this topic as we speak. I'll keep you posted.
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#82255 - 08/11/2005 10:58 AM |
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Look at the problem this way. In the Marines you go with the lowest common denominator. That is why they search you when you leave the rifle range. This is why the simplest instructions are written on a stinger missle due to Private misfit being unable or unwilling to pay attention. Now look at pitbulls. for every responsible owner there are huge amounts of idiot owners. pitbulls overall due to this huge amount of idiot owners are classified as dangerous. This is the same as the Marine corps. Go with the lowest common denominator. assume idiocy.
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#82256 - 08/11/2005 11:13 AM |
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Jeff I take great exception to the lowest common denominator crack at the Marines. Having two brothers who enlisted in the Marines and then went on to graduate college is insulting. In my twenty years in the Navy I've only seen highly motivated and professional conduct. They have to have HSD and score well on the ASVAB In the upper percentials as compared to the rest of the country. Disparaging remarks while good men I dieing is BS <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />
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#82257 - 08/11/2005 11:17 AM |
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All good points, thanks for posting.
Captain Iain Pedden, is there an organization I could get invaled in that help with BSL, something like the NRA, but for dogs, or pit bulls? A friendly organization that keeps you up todate on things in the country and puts your money to good use?
BTW. when I posted this, I forgot there was a doglaw forum if a MED wants to move it there, more people might view it or have more info to help.
Thanks guys.
David.
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The quality of the men in the Marines is not in question here. Haveing been in the Marine Corps I can tell you that is the way we are treated. I got sick of doing my best, and still being treated like I was in third grade.
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David, I don't know if there is any organization dedicated to battling BSL. I know that many well-established dog organizations have explicit policies on the issue (AKC, Humane Society, etc.), and that may be a good place to start. A large part of the battle will involve credibility, audience and money, and large dog organizations have those things (in the eyes of many decision makers).
Jeff, I have considered your comments at length. They're not relevant to this thread. If you have issues with me as a Marine, hit me up in a PM. If you have issues with the Corps, the Commandant can be reached at http://www.usmc.mil
Semper Fi.
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#82260 - 08/14/2005 12:03 PM |
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QUOTE: is there an organization I could get invaled in that help with BSL, something like the NRA, but for dogs, or pit bulls? END There sure is, and I'm giving you some URLs in a PM. This country is starting to catch up with the anti-BSL organization in the UK and Canada.
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QUOTE: is there an organization I could get invaled in that help with BSL, something like the NRA, but for dogs, or pit bulls? END If I can add one moderator quote that I think is worth all the URLs together (if you can do it): "I have one fool proof way of preventing BSL. Run for office and get elected. More of us need to start getting into positions in elected government and educating the general populace about responsible dog ownership. Get a position on a local Animal Control board ( I did, and it worked wonders for my time there ), or as a City or County Commissioner - all those positions are usually part time in smaller towns/ cities or rural local's. Just my opinion, but it'll work better than any petition drive, believe me."
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