I just found out these guys are down the street from my house. I am thinking about getting another pup in a year or so. Does anyone know if these dogs have a good reputation?

The kennel name is Landmark Kennels
http://www.k9protectiondogs.com

Maybe they were just having an off day during the filming of the protection clips...... <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />

You would have to elaborate for me. I have never done any protection work or sports so it looked go to me.

The protection training clip with the fella walking his dog and getting attacked by a guy *with a sleeve* is just silly. Any low level trained SchH dog is going to bark at someone wearing a sleeve, that's a given. And it certainly doesn't show a dog being "protective", that's just a weak, weak example.
And if people put poor examples of training in their video clips for advertising, I always worry what their finished product is like. You'd think they'd show their best examples, right?

I see. They claim to primarily bred police dogs?

Hmmmm <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" /> For them to advertise basically sport and real life protection and they chose to show a schutzhund routine, throws up more red flags than red lights in downtown L.A.. Mike you should know that schutzhund training doesn't make your dog a protection dog. It has basic fundamentals that are needed to build upon to further protection training, but if you think a dog doing a schutzhund routine will protect you, you'll end up in the hospital if your lucky. Now I don't know if that is the extent of their training just from the video, however, Like Will I have to be very suspicious of someone who claims all they do, yet has a man jump out of the woods and use a schutzhund sleeve and padded stick that from what I saw never really struck the dog. Also, What made me even more leary was that a few times I seen the dog looking at the sleeve in his bark and hold (NOT GOOD!) Though if I was just looking into this protection stuff I would be highly impressed to say the least. For someone with the opportunity to make several video clips(which they obviously do) and only make this one for protection is very odd. He should have had this one and labled it sport or schutzhund bitework, then had another with someone in a low profile bitesuit (pretty much looks like thin regular clothes), or hidden sleeve and he should have demonstrated this in atleast 2 other scenarios minimum. Now this could just be poor advertising and marketing, but my eyebrows are definatly raised.

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I just watched it again, and some factors to consider, the decoy never puts any real pressure on him, body language from the decoy when engaged on a dog is a demoralizing factor and can make an otherwise strong looking dog back off. The dog also, never gets any verbal opposition. I would like to see who gets bit full mouth or otherwise and doesn't yell or scream a word. A dog is more comfortable if the decoy shuts up and just plays with him. Example, seen a dog at my ASR trial that could probably do that bitework there ok, to good. The dog was looking tough acting tough, until I used body language, which brought him to the edge (I could see he was wanting to break and run, but he stayed) then when he faced the pressure from another decoy he was ready to break as with me, and as soon as the decoy started yelling verbal opposition at him while he was on the bite, he broke and the owner is still running after him. Again, thats not saying this kennels dogs aren't real dogs, and will hang in the fight however the decoy is pressuring him, or what he is wearing, but for you to put up what I call very basic, basic bitework as your only protection video when you claim to also, train for so many other real venues anyone being in business any length of time especially 35yrs should realize they need other footage, or better footage of real training for advertisement purposes. That was like me advertising my dogs strict Obedience under fire, smoke, heavy machine gun fire, hand signals from a football field away, with a war going on between us, because I want to sell advanced obedience, but I make one clip of my dog and I in a quiet, empty indoor room while all I command him to do is sit, down, and stay. Not really displaying anything advanced am I? Just some more pointers, and I guess some of the good ole' IMO's.