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#91022 - 12/02/2005 02:14 PM |
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Ok, Don't laugh.. As many of you may know, the original Rin-Tin-Tin was a sable. Does anyone have any credible info on his actual pedigree.? I have been to the Rin-Tin-Tin website, and it states that they have his pedigree back to Horand. I looked and it does not really tell me anything, unless I am missing the pedigree somewhere..
I am just interested to see what lines he went back to..
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I just recently read in a schutzhund book he was bred from a german bred war bitch confiscated from the german army and brought back to the states by an officer in the US army. Have no idea if it's true or not but it was in a book by stewart hilliard and susan barwig (sic?) about schutzhund.
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Ok, Don't laugh.. As many of you may know, the original Rin-Tin-Tin was a sable. Does anyone have any credible info on his actual pedigree.?....
I recall this being discussed on this board:
http://www.leerburg.com/ubbthreads/showf...rue#Post4154336
All I have come up with on Google was that Rin Tin Tin was a dog that was brought to America after World War I by a soldier named Larry Baker. In Germany, the dog was used as a military dog during each of the wars.
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.....All I have come up with on Google was that Rin Tin Tin was a dog that was brought to America after World War I by a soldier named Larry Baker. In Germany, the dog was used as a military dog during each of the wars.
Sorry -- I meant to attribute that statement to
http://www.justshepherds.com/germanshepherdprofile.htm
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#91026 - 12/02/2005 09:53 PM |
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You can email the lady at rin tin tin page and ask her about the lines. Rin Tin Tin and his siater were brought over to the US as puppies. They were found with their mother in a bombed out French base. The sister died shortly after arrival, but Rin Tin Tin lived (obviously, lol). Thats all I know off of the top of my head. Wish I could help more!
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#91027 - 12/03/2005 02:21 AM |
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How can it be possible for anyone to have his pedigree if he was brought over after being rescued, or captured, or found, or however your version of the story goes??
It's a pretty safe bet that he goes back on Horand, you'd be hard pressed to find a dog that didn't go back on Horand. LOL
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#91028 - 12/03/2005 07:11 AM |
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How can it be possible for anyone to have his pedigree if he was brought over after being rescued, or captured, or found, or however your version of the story goes??
Right, whatever, and next you are gonna tell me Santa is not real? <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />
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His mother was registered and you can trace his pedigree back through her.
The original Rin Tin Tin was a mere puppy of a few days old when Corporal Lee Duncan insisted that his battalion in Lorraine, France check out a bombed war dog kennel during World War I. What he found on that fateful day of September 15, 1918 was a mother German Shepherd Dog and her litter, the only survivors of the bomb dropped. Betty had five puppies.
Duncan chose two of the puppies, a male and a female, and members of the battalion took the mother and remainder back to their camp.
Ironically, the only survivors over the next few months were the two pups Duncan had claimed. He named the pups after tiny French puppets the children gave to the American soldiers for good luck. The male was named Rin Tin Tin and the female Nannette.
Duncan worked with the dogs training them to perform as he had seen the German war dogs perform during the war. He was wildly impressed with the breed’s ability and wanted to learn more. He discovered that the German kennel master had been captured by the Americans and went so far as to visit him in the prison camp, all to learn more about the German Shepherd Dog.
When the war was over Duncan made special arrangements to take his two pups back to the United States with him to his home in Los Angeles.
He and the pups were allowed aboard a ship that transported them to New York on a 15-day journey.
During the trip Nannette became ill with distemper and by the time Duncan arrived in New York she was quite ill.
That's the official story of the dog from the site of the lady that owns the lines. Im guessing that either the mother was tattood OR that not everyone that worked at the war dog kennel died and that there was at least one person left that was able to provide the info on the breeding or perhaps some records survived. Wither way, this seems to be the story most places.
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Sure, they had the pedigree of the mother. . .right.
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#91031 - 12/03/2005 06:01 PM |
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Heck, Rob, Horand could of been his daddy, or granddad. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> The breed was brand new in the big WW1
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