May 18, 2011
My female will not out the sleeve once it has been slipped by the helper. We have tried everything. Do you have any ideas?
Full Question:
I just read the question on the dog outing the sleeve when the motion stops - I am having the opposite problem where my dog will not out the sleeve after carrying it. I have worked all her foundation with an excellent helper and we have tried almost everything to get her to out on command. He even had a very experience & good handler handle her to see if I was the problem but she did the same thing to him.She has an extremely strong grip and does not want to give the sleeve up. I have used flanking, prong collar, another sleeve, etc... The next step is the electric collar.
She is very obedient in everything she does except for this. I am very tired of having to go to such extremes. She does out without a problem for a hold & guard. She also will out without a problem when I put her up after her set of bite work is done. She will drop the sleeve and jump in her crate! I bred this dog and ever since she was a puppy she has been extremely possessive. I have always worked her in obedience with a two toys and I have always offered her "trade" in order to get something away from her. Was that my mistake?
What suggestions do you have?
Karen
Ed's Answer:
The out in this situation is 100% a rank issue, in my opinion).
A dog must completely understand whom the pack leader is to have a clean out. You do not have this and you have not established this position with your dog. To do it properly it must be accomplished in every aspect of the dogs life, not just on the "OUT off the sleeve."
I have written articles on dominant dogs and how to raise and live with them.
Two ball is a good start on this but it must expand further than that. Many times a dog will not have as strong of a drive for the ball as the sleeve. Therefore the work starts with a ball. The dog must OUT the ball when told and if it picks it up it must be corrected very, very hard. The bottom line is that the dog must clearly understand that if it does not "OUT" the ball it will have a very hard, hard correction. When the dog does OUT it must have a lot of praise. It must be very clear that you are pleased that she did what you asked.
When it understands this then the same thing must be done with the sleeve. The same thing here too - the dog must be praised for dropping the sleeve.
A dog must completely understand whom the pack leader is to have a clean out. You do not have this and you have not established this position with your dog. To do it properly it must be accomplished in every aspect of the dogs life, not just on the "OUT off the sleeve."
I have written articles on dominant dogs and how to raise and live with them.
Two ball is a good start on this but it must expand further than that. Many times a dog will not have as strong of a drive for the ball as the sleeve. Therefore the work starts with a ball. The dog must OUT the ball when told and if it picks it up it must be corrected very, very hard. The bottom line is that the dog must clearly understand that if it does not "OUT" the ball it will have a very hard, hard correction. When the dog does OUT it must have a lot of praise. It must be very clear that you are pleased that she did what you asked.
When it understands this then the same thing must be done with the sleeve. The same thing here too - the dog must be praised for dropping the sleeve.
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