Martina C Wilson wrote 03/30/2006 02:28 PM Q about "drive" #102633 - 03/30/2006 02:28 PM
Martina C Wilson Webboard User Reg: 11-09-2005 Posts: 211 Loc: Offline	Ok I have read a lot of threads, but could not find exact answer: Now I know what food, prey, defense, drives are.. But how can you describe civil drive? Is it: I have 5 mos old puppy and he will bite already on an arm without any protection. Is this considered civil drive? PLease educate me.. because I confused myself. And maybe I am completely out of the loop here. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> we do not do bite work yet, only prey games. But he is seriuos, when he gets a chance to bite somebody, even when game.. Sometimes he gets over the line with some people Thanks.. PS and how do you test civil drive.. any suggestions?
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Connie Sutherland wrote 03/30/2006 03:03 PM Re: Q about "drive" [Re: Martina C Wilson ] #102634 - 03/30/2006 03:03 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: Ok I have read a lot of threads, but could not find exact answer: Now I know what food, prey, defense, drives are.. But how can you describe civil drive? Is it: I have 5 mos old puppy and he will bite already on an arm without any protection. Is this considered civil drive? PLease educate me.. because I confused myself. And maybe I am completely out of the loop here. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> we do not do bite work yet, only prey games. But he is seriuos, when he gets a chance to bite somebody, even when game.. Sometimes he gets over the line with some people Thanks.. PS and how do you test civil drive.. any suggestions? I will be watching, too, because I never heard of civil drive. <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />
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Selena van Leeuwen wrote 03/30/2006 03:20 PM Re: Q about "drive" [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #102635 - 03/30/2006 03:20 PM
Selena van Leeuwen Webboard User Reg: 03-02-2006 Posts: 24 Loc: Almere, the Netherlands Offline	Civil drive is wanting to bite on anything, usually this kind of dogs are very dominant and only have one boss and has a lack of play/prey drive. I know dogs who seriously injured people on the age of 6-8 mo.Not a nip, but serious, scar making bites.
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Jenni Williams wrote 03/30/2006 03:44 PM Re: Q about "drive" [Re: Selena van Leeuwen ] #102636 - 03/30/2006 03:44 PM
Jenni Williams Webboard User Reg: 10-06-2005 Posts: 2686 Loc: llinois Offline	<img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />Sounds a bit like mine...does not even particularly like to play, will only play with me, and only has prey drive for live animals...acts like everyone other than me is invisible. Dominance out the wazoo. So, I anxiously await definitions. I hate to define drives all the time; dogs go back and forth probably faster than we can label, and it seems like if you asked 5 people what "civil" means to them, you'll get 4-5 different answers.
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Martina C Wilson wrote 03/30/2006 03:48 PM Re: Q about "drive" [Re: Selena van Leeuwen ] #102637 - 03/30/2006 03:48 PM
Martina C Wilson Webboard User Reg: 11-09-2005 Posts: 211 Loc: Offline	OK I thing a police person would probably like my dog.. he is pretty dominant.. and terorizes anybody and everybody.. Well I can say he is not diferrent than my other 2 dogs... I think I will buy a muzzle
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Connie Sutherland wrote 03/30/2006 03:53 PM Re: Q about "drive" [Re: Jenni Williams ] #102638 - 03/30/2006 03:53 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: .... So, I anxiously await definitions. I hate to define drives all the time; dogs go back and forth probably faster than we can label, and it seems like if you asked 5 people what "civil" means to them, you'll get 4-5 different answers. More than that. I did a web search and came up with everything from "it's not a drive; it's a temperament" to "bites without sleeve" to "hostile toward people." I back off. The topic is way over my head.
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Selena van Leeuwen wrote 03/30/2006 04:01 PM Re: Q about "drive" [Re: Jenni Williams ] #102639 - 03/30/2006 04:01 PM
Selena van Leeuwen Webboard User Reg: 03-02-2006 Posts: 24 Loc: Almere, the Netherlands Offline	Quote: <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />Sounds a bit like mine...does not even particularly like to play, will only play with me, and only has prey drive for live animals...acts like everyone other than me is invisible. Dominance out the wazoo. So, I anxiously await definitions. I hate to define drives all the time; dogs go back and forth probably faster than we can label, and it seems like if you asked 5 people what "civil" means to them, you'll get 4-5 different answers. What´s in a name? We do mean the same behaviour don´t we?
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Martina C Wilson wrote 03/30/2006 04:04 PM Re: Q about "drive" [Re: Selena van Leeuwen ] #102640 - 03/30/2006 04:04 PM
Martina C Wilson Webboard User Reg: 11-09-2005 Posts: 211 Loc: Offline	I dont want to confuse anybody the Q is: Civil drive: definition, recognition in a puppy, or "teenager" dog, and how can it be tested? Hope this is more clear Thank you guys
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Diana Matusik wrote 03/30/2006 04:13 PM Re: Q about "drive" [Re: Martina C Wilson ] #102641 - 03/30/2006 04:13 PM
Diana Matusik Webboard User Reg: 04-27-2004 Posts: 456 Loc: Central FL Offline	A very long post on civil drive.
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Martina C Wilson wrote 03/30/2006 04:15 PM Re: Q about "drive" [Re: Diana Matusik ] #102642 - 03/30/2006 04:15 PM
Martina C Wilson Webboard User Reg: 11-09-2005 Posts: 211 Loc: Offline	Awesome that is what I was looking for.. couldnt find Thanks bunch
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