Hello, I have 2 male dobermans who have just turned 5 months old. I have them house trained already, they do pretty well with the sit and stay command, and they are getting better at heeling. At what age should I start the real training? I would like both boys to have K9 training. They may be able to do volunteer work for our local Sheriffs Dpt. They are learing the basic's pretty quick, but I want to make sure I am not teaching them to early.
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Raising two dogs at the same time is going to cause problems (uunless you keep them separated) I have written about this on the web site. You will not see these problems at 5 months - they will come when these dogs enter maturity. Unless you keep them separated 18 months from now you can write back and ask what to do about the dog fights.
If you want to learn how to obedience train them - get my Basic Dog Obedience Video http://leerburg.com/302.htm Read the description of the tape. You are also going to have problems that you would normally not have had you raised these dogs separatly.
You are absolutely correct, I do not plan on them being together past the age of 1 year, one is my sons and he will be taking the dog with him in about 5-6 months. We would like them trained together so they will be used to having another dog at their side.Thank you
I would not recommend this. While I have seen this done with two dogs responding to different languages it is very awkward and counterproductive. One should be kenneled while the other trained.
For the past two months they have been working well side by side, by this I mean my son handles one and I the other. They are in sight of each other and actually seem to learn from the other. I know I have a dominent one but the one who is less dominent seems to be teaching the other. It seems that once they are seperated they are to nervous and are busy looking for the other brother. They have uncles who work together,and so far are doing well. I guess as long as they are working well together I will keep this up, I am sure that when I come across a problem I will separate the two. They heel very well together,and sit and stay pretty good for their age. The lesson I would like to teach next is for them to stay alert to danger while sitting.
Thanks for the advice, keep it coming.
Originally posted by redwarlock: It seems that once they are seperated they are to nervous and are busy looking for the other brother.
This is exactly the problem Vince was trying to warn you about. They are overbonding and becoming *doggy*. I'm not clear on your future training plans for these 2?
Are these dogs littermates? It's never a good plan to raise littermates together, breeders ought to know better.
You are getting some good advice, but it seems as if you're mind is made up.
I am sorry, my mind is not made up yet, I am considering the good advice, I am merely mentioning thta I have not seen any evidence of bad behavior. Yes they are litter mates, they are the first and second born. I also mentioned that I have noticed that their uncles work well together. Keep sending advice, like it is said, I use the good and not the bad. I guess I was waiting for more info. Thank you
When you say that when they are seperated they loose concentration and become nervous looking for each other it is because they are taking their cues from each other more than you. By raising them together they will become to "doggy". This is why its tough to argue with people like Ed who have trained dogs for years and years. The dogs need to respond to what you say not to what the other is doing. Thats why its better to raise and train them seperately. I agree that when these dogs mature you may have problems. Don't just take my word, listen to those who REALLY know what the deal is.
"The lesson I would like to teach next is for them to stay alert to danger while sitting."
At this point these puppies should not be alert for danger. They should be looking to you for direction and should not be exposed to "danger" for training. Don't put the cart before the horse. Teach the obedience and get that SOLID and let them grow up before trying any stress based training. At this point some basic prey work is ok, but the dog should not be looking for danger. They should only be having positive experiences.
If you can't be a Good Example,then You'll just have to Serve as a Horrible Warning. Catherine Aird.
Okay, I will start the training seperatly, now does this mean they are to always be apart at this age, they are kenneled together at night. Is this all right or are you saying that they should be totally and completly seperated?
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