ok all my life when i was teaching them right from wrong, i would smack them on the ass hard, when chewing something, or making an outside only mess in the house.

when biting or nipping i would smack hard on the mouth, is there an easier less painfull way for me and the puppy, because i love my lill guy and hate to have to smack him, but in all actuallity it works just like with a kid, he does something wrong he gets a smack on the ass, and eventually they learn hey if i do this i will get smacked, they will associate it with the pain, and most likely not do it again

Wow you have a lot of reading and learning ahead of you. Other people are better at posting links to other forum threads, leerburg articles and leerburg dvd's than I am, so I'll let someone else do that.

Read up on redirection, marker training, crate training, and all the other puppy basics that have been covered here.

Basic Puppy Rule #1: If you don't give them the opportunity to do something, then the habit won't develop and they will grow out of it. Let a puppy be a puppy and show them what they are supposed to do instead of whacking em on the ass when they are following their instincts.

Dogs learn from repetition and habit. If you do the same thing with a dog over and over, then they will do it automatically without having to correct them for it.

Michael, I'm going to post some links for you. Smacking your puppy may deter the nipping or other unwanted behavior, but it also makes him fear you. There are MUCH better ways to interact with your puppy.

Remember, your pup knows nothing except what you have taught it, and what it instinctually does (like mouthing/nipping and peeing on the carpet) When he mouths, he's doing what he would do with his littermates; in other words, he's being a puppy.

http://leerburg.com/pdf/markers.pdf (Marker Training)-free

http://leerburg.com/ebooks/puppygroundwork.pdf (Puppy Groundwork)-free

http://leerburg.com/120.htm (Your Puppy DVD)

I highly recommend you get the puppy DVD. Loads of good info about the correct way to raise a puppy, including basic training tips.

If you have specific questions about a problem that you are having w/ your pup, don't hesitate to ask. They are many experienced members here who will direct you to other ways of training your pup that don't involve hitting him.

 Quote: michael curry

ok all my life when i was teaching them right from wrong, i would smack them on the ass hard, when chewing something, or making an outside only mess in the house.

when biting or nipping i would smack hard on the mouth, is there an easier less painfull way for me and the puppy, because i love my lill guy and hate to have to smack him, but in all actuallity it works just like with a kid, he does something wrong he gets a smack on the ass, and eventually they learn hey if i do this i will get smacked, they will associate it with the pain, and most likely not do it again

Hi, Michael,

This is really just bad training, as others have said or indicated.

OK, that's out of the way. You asked what was better, so

http://leerburg.com/302.htm

and all the links that Lynne provided. I'd start reading and marker training - today, preferably.

If you don't understand marker training, speak up, please, because a simple demo can be typed showing you nothing more complex than "look" and "sit" to give you the idea. Do you have high-value training treats? Bits of real leftover meat will not only work, but work well.

And the suggestions to train what you DO want to avoid unfair corrections for what you DON'T want as well as controlling the pup's environment are vital.

The housetraining is a whole 'nother thing. I admit that it has been a long time since I heard someone describe that "method."

Do you have a crate?

 Quote: Michael curry

when biting or nipping i would smack hard on the mouth,

YIKES.....that would cause stitches here at my house.

Hope that you read the links provided and apply these training methods.
Your method is very, very old school, some of it is unacceptable and the rest is just unbelievable.

I would never do this to a dog. Or any other animal or CHILD for that matter. Wow.

 Quote: Michael curry

i would smack them on the ass hard

 Quote: Michael curry

i would smack hard on the mouth

 Quote: Michael curry

he gets a smack on the ass

You sound like a real nice guy.

I've met a lot of spouse and child abusers you'd get along with quite well.

Your dogs must really love you.

 Quote: Mike J Schoonbrood

Basic Puppy Rule #1: If you don't give them the opportunity to do something, then the habit won't develop and they will grow out of it. Let a puppy be a puppy and show them what they are supposed to do instead of whacking em on the ass when they are following their instincts..... Dogs learn from repetition and habit. If you do the same thing with a dog over and over, then they will do it automatically without having to correct them for it.

Lots of great advice in a short-and-sweet post.

actually my dogs do love me, and i didnt post the thread to be mean or even get your snide remarks.. those of you that didnt scoff me thank you, i was simply asking a question, a few weeks ago i was playing with my puppy and when i say puppy i mean 40 pound cane corso puppy 15 weeks, and he bit my nose so instictivly i reacted with a smack on the nose. he hes yet to nip or bit me even when playing since then..

but yes you are right it is old school, and i may have forgot to mention i myself am old school.. i just recently got into the world of raw food, and vaccinations, now i am trying to learn better and easier ways to train my puppy then the old fashiond smack on the ass.

and yes i was brought up with a smack on the ass when i did something wrong, and i feel that if more parents today smacked their kids from time to time when doing wrong there wouldnt be kids shooting other kids in schools. but thats totally off beat. my apologies.

i will read those links posted and again thenk you to those of you who helped.

and the abusive father comment, extreamly uncalled for, theres a huge diff between a smack on the ass to a kid then beating the crap out of him. get it straight..

and my i add i have no kids of my own for that same reason, i do not i repeat do not want to have to deal with that, and it pains me to smack my puppy for peeing on the floor, i have done that once. only smacked him twice once for the biting my nose the other for peeing on the carpet..

thats why im here to learn

thanks

Hi Mike! No matter how big, a 15 week old puppy is still a puppy. Good on you for trying to learn a better way. Smacking a puppy doesn't work real well as a training technique, I have found. You don't want to end up with a hand-shy dog. Ed has such a good article on housebreaking puppies. I think that Connie already supplied you with that link. Good luck!