My mother gave me a entire jar of these today for Nico to use because her old girl won't eat them anymore. I don't know anything about them, or anyone else who has used them so I thought I would ask
She is showing some signs of slowing down, and it takes her a bit longer to get down off the couch or into the bathtub, but overall she doesn't seem very arthritic yet.


here is a link with the ingredients and some information
phycox

I already give her omega 3 and vitamin E in her food everyday as well as hip action glucosamine treats, so I don't know if these are really any better/different.

Jennifer,

Hambone is currently taking PhyCox-JS as well as his fish body oil and High Gamma vitamin E. He isn't on any other joint supplement however.

The algae is from up around the Washington Coast (Doc told me that information).

The tumeric helps with inflammation and pain.

Doc was concerned about the ratio and amount of the salmon oil I give Hambone as too much Omega 3, at least in humans, thins the blood and causes clotting problems.

From what I read on my bottle, the only Omega 3 included is flaxseed and the dosage isn't very high.

The selenium is included with the Vitamin C because if Vitamin C is taken large doses, the selenium uptake is affected. This is reduced by taken both at the same time. They include bioflavanoids with the C and if I remember my herbal book correctly, anytime you take Vitamin C you should include bioflavanoids.

It doesn't say what the dosage of Vitamin C but my guess is it should be at least 500 mg to have any effect at the loading doses of the medication ie two a day then taper to one. (I need to find that one out. Now I am curious. If it isn't at least 500 mg, then I will include his Ester-C in his daily regimen).

Hambone moves more freely now and we can do the exercises that leih suggested, altho we haven't started the agility poles yet.

I think it may be worth looking into for Nico, but you would want to discuss it with your vet if you are really interested to see if you can give in addition to your current glucosamine product or if it needs to be given alone.

(I re-read my post and it didn't quite answer your question, but I stand by it as it does give you some information and anectdotal evidence of positive results via Hambone.)

I hope I did help some.

Added: loading dose is for Hambone's size = 35 lbs.

2. How much glucosamine does Nico get a day in the treats? If not full dose ( and I admit I don't know how much a dog should get a day), then you can figure out the difference and see if only one phycox a day will work.

3. The phycox may be more readily absorbed.

Good to know that it helps Hambone, he is only 35 lbs? I thought he was bigger than that! OH and I saw that dog again this morning, and he does look just like him, but bigger I think LOL

She gets one hip action treat in the morning and another in the evening, so that is 600 mg Glucosamine and 100 mg Chondroiton.

I noticed the omega acids in the phycox are from flax seed which isn't readily available to dogs so I would think it would be ok.

My other question is whether or not it sourced from an actual algae or if it is cyanobacteria, which is also called blue green algae. If it is sourced from cyanobacteria it puts me off a bit because that stuff can be toxic.

She has an appt today for a vet consultation to see about surgery to get a fatty cyst that is getting big removed so I will ask them while we are there. I am so nervous about her having surgery...I am going to write down my other questions or I know I will forget everything.

Jennifer,
If you find out "whether or not it sourced from an actual algae or if it is cyanobacteria, which is also called blue green algae", could you post your answer or at least PM me? I believe it is extracted from the algae itself, but I can't swear to it.



I don't know whether to say good luck or not at the vets. I wish Nico didn't need surgery. (Same age as Hambone I think?)
Thinking of you and Nico.

I trust this vet,he is good family friend and will listen to the concerns that I have that most vets won't
and I have been putting it off for too long, I know he will help me make the right decision and take good care of her if she does go under. She has never had surgery for anything SO I don't know how anesthesia will effect her sensitive system. And she will have to wear a cone for a long time to keep her from ripping open the wound, she is a mutilator.


What are marine Lipid concentrates?

hmm the name of the compound is Phycocyanin
Here is the wiki about it.
phycocanin

 Quote: jo harker

... Doc was concerned about the ratio and amount of the salmon oil I give Hambone as too much Omega 3, at least in humans, thins the blood and causes clotting problems.

This was a vet with a specialty in nutrition?

Is the dog on coumadin or any anti-coagulant, or does he have a seafood allergy?

What was the Omega 6 to Omega 3 ratio that the doctor recommends?

"Too much" is very vague, and the ratio of 6s to 3s is critical.

JMO, and I'm not a doctor.

 Quote: Jennifer Lee

... I noticed the omega acids in the phycox are from flax seed which isn't readily available to dogs

Dogs do not have the conversion mechanism that humans have to convert short chain 3s (like from flax) to the long-chain 3s (like EPA and DHA); in humans it's inefficient at 2 to 15%, and in dogs it's about zero.

Flax does not take the place of 3s from marine sources for dogs.

 Quote: jennifer lee

... What are marine Lipid concentrates? ...

"Marine lipids" is a very vague term that doesn't identify the exact source of the oil, such as the type of fish, etc.

Connie,
What are your thoughts on the supplements over all. If I use these I would continue her on the fish oil and Vitamin E along with them.

I have 120 of them and they seem to get good reviews. I am just picky about what goes into her system.