Kathy Overfield wrote 01/20/2009 11:50 AM What supplements do I need to give my new puppy #224341 - 01/20/2009 11:50 AM
Kathy Overfield Webboard User Reg: 02-15-2008 Posts: 50 Loc: Offline	I am going to be getting a new German Shepherd puppy soon, it has not been born yet, we are expecting to bring the new puppy home in April. I have doing alot of research and have been unable to find out what kind of supplements that are good to feed a puppy. I just lost a 14 year old GSD that we were feeding Royal Canin German Shepherd formula with The Missing Link Plus, and an egg every couple of day. I hope you can help with what supplements are good to give 8 week old puppies. Thanks, Kathy Overfield
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steve strom wrote 01/20/2009 12:11 PM Re: What supplements do I need to give my new puppy [Re: Kathy Overfield ] #224346 - 01/20/2009 12:11 PM
steve strom Webboard User Reg: 03-17-2006 Posts: 4203 Loc: Offline	You should read some here about raw feeding. But to answer your question our puppy gets fish oil and vitamin e. A pro- biotic, a digestive enzyme and a mineral supplement. Keep in mind supplements are in addition to good food, not a replacement.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 01/20/2009 12:25 PM Re: What supplements do I need to give my new pupp [Re: Kathy Overfield ] #224348 - 01/20/2009 12:25 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: Kathy Overfield I am going to be getting a new German Shepherd puppy soon, it has not been born yet, we are expecting to bring the new puppy home in April. I have doing alot of research and have been unable to find out what kind of supplements that are good to feed a puppy. I just lost a 14 year old GSD that we were feeding Royal Canin German Shepherd formula with The Missing Link Plus, and an egg every couple of day. I hope you can help with what supplements are good to give 8 week old puppies. Thanks, Kathy Overfield As Steve says, I'd start reading. You are in one good forum. Here's another: http://leerburg.com/forums/ubbthreads.php/ubb/postlist/Board/12/page/1 Also, http://leerburg.com/feedingdogs.htm and especially http://leerburg.com/feedpups.htm I believe that there is almost no modern dog diet, commercial or raw, that doesn't require long-chain Omega 3 supplementation (from marine sources because dogs don't have the mechanism that humans have to convert short-chain 3s to DHA and EPA; in fact, it's inefficient in humans, too). So fish oil and Vitamin E (which is used to process/protect the delicate PUFAs) are the big number 1 for me. Many people give ester C as well.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 01/20/2009 12:28 PM Re: What supplements do I need to give my new pupp [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #224349 - 01/20/2009 12:28 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Probiotics too, which I think of as food (good plain unsweetened yogurt with live cultures), although I also add a probiotic supplement for my allergic dog. Digestive enzymes are good, too, especially if the dog will have been on kibble and you are switching to raw. JMO.
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Aaron Myracle wrote 01/20/2009 12:40 PM Re: What supplements do I need to give my new puppy [Re: steve strom ] #224351 - 01/20/2009 12:40 PM
Aaron Myracle Webboard User Reg: 06-06-2008 Posts: 5062 Loc: WA, USA Offline
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Connie Sutherland wrote 01/20/2009 12:52 PM Re: What supplements do I need to give my new pupp [Re: Aaron Myracle ] #224353 - 01/20/2009 12:52 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Agreed, absolutely, that Royal Canin falls into the crap-in-a-bag category (and thanks to Cindy for that great phrase). I give produce (or green tripe: even better) because the dog cannot run to the store to intuitively correct any missing diet components, so I don't want to leave out anything that a wild canid eats. (Gray wolves, for example, eat the entire rodent, bird, and other small prey, and some of the stomach chambers of big ungulates. The Gray Wolf Project videos even show them, even in times of plentiful prey, grabbing up ripe fallen berries as well as tender ferns that grow along rivers.) Produce is a very small part of the diet, but I think it's important anyway. I do strictly avoid anything starchy or high in sugar. The more I read about canine cancers, the more I am convinced that dogs are especially vulnerable to sugar-fed cancers.
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Kathy Overfield wrote 01/20/2009 01:17 PM Re: What supplements do I need to give my new pupp [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #224362 - 01/20/2009 01:17 PM
Kathy Overfield Webboard User Reg: 02-15-2008 Posts: 50 Loc: Offline	Thank you all for your advise, I am just not sure on the raw diet. I guess if we want a healthier and happier dog we really need to be open to trying this diet. Again, Thank you
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Connie Sutherland wrote 01/20/2009 01:22 PM Re: What supplements do I need to give my new pupp [Re: Kathy Overfield ] #224366 - 01/20/2009 01:22 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Oh. I mis-read totally. I thought you were talking about a raw diet. At the very least, I would cross that brand of food off my list.
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Aaron Myracle wrote 01/20/2009 01:23 PM Re: What supplements do I need to give my new pupp [Re: Kathy Overfield ] #224367 - 01/20/2009 01:23 PM
Aaron Myracle Webboard User Reg: 06-06-2008 Posts: 5062 Loc: WA, USA Offline	You've got plenty of time to make the leap to raw. In the meantime there are many, many better quality kibbles that you can feed while you do your research and begin locating food sources. Artemis Maximal Dog Blue Wilderness GO Natural Grain Free Canine Horizon Legacy Innova EVO Instinct Orijen Solid Gold Barking at the Moon (Sold at Leerburg). Taste of the Wild Wellness Core Another option is Honest Kitchen (sold at Leerburg).
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Connie Sutherland wrote 01/20/2009 01:25 PM Re: What supplements do I need to give my new pupp [Re: Aaron Myracle ] #224369 - 01/20/2009 01:25 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	And books galore: http://leerburg.com/books.htm#nutrition Natural Nutrition for Dogs and Cats is a good one for how-to.
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