Training with my dog and he doesn't seem to be getting fuss. He does fine when I have the leash in hand and guide him a bit but when I drop the leash to check his understanding nothing. I say nope and he tries again...nothing. I have done this with him on leash at least 50 times. Is he just not ready for me to drop the line and still needs work or can I split the excersie at all for him to get it. He has done well when I have the leash on him at varying distances but when I drop it he just doesn't get it.
He is 19 months. I have been marker training using the excersise with food and toys. I think with toys he gets to "driven" and can't concentrate. When I try to train him with his ball on a string or ball in general he sturggles to do the simple task like down. But I want him to learn to focus and work for toys as well as food.
have you started using compulsion yet. my mal. was to high drive to use just prey drive. i used food for a little longer than i should have and when i did work in prey i would be very tolerant of being a little out of place. also i train the finish and the heel totally seperate. soon after i started with a prong and a tug this allowed me to tighten her up. the switch to e-collar took some time. after about three months im working with the ecollar and no leash with a decoy. alot of hours involved. hope this helps some.
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I think with toys he gets to "driven" and can't concentrate. When I try to train him with his ball on a string or ball in general he sturggles to do the simple task like down.
You might want to stick to food rewards for now. I had the same problem with my Dobe. He was so fired up to see his toys that he forgot what he was supposed to be doing. I had to stick to just food rewards for awhile until his training and maturity provided him with more self-control. Now at almost three, the toys work wonderfully to help him focus in environments he otherwise finds challenging, or to get him excited about exercises he knows extremely well.
I still have to train all new behaviors with food though, in order for him to be calm enough to learn what I'm trying to teach him.
Something is missing in this somewhere.
I take it you're working on a competition heel, right?
What do you mean you've dropped the leash 50 times and he doesn't get it? He forges, moves off your leg, lags behind?
Then a nope and he trys again? He loses concentation? Or does he just wanders to do as he wishes?
I'm kind of lost as to what's happening besides you're not happy with his heel.
Do you mean he seems too amped to perform the task at hand?
Are you sure the bridge in the marker training has been used properly?
Are you guiding him, or correcting him?
If my dog isn't learning, I'm doing something wrong.
Randy
You might want to stick to food rewards for now. I had the same problem with my Dobe. He was so fired up to see his toys that he forgot what he was supposed to be doing. I had to stick to just food rewards for awhile until his training and maturity provided him with more self-control. Now at almost three, the toys work wonderfully to help him focus in environments he otherwise finds challenging, or to get him excited about exercises he knows extremely well.
I still have to train all new behaviors with food though, in order for him to be calm enough to learn what I'm trying to teach him.
Yeah I think that is what is going on. I was doing some training today without the toy and he got it. Not perfect but much better. Thanks
have you started using compulsion yet. my mal. was to high drive to use just prey drive. i used food for a little longer than i should have and when i did work in prey i would be very tolerant of being a little out of place. also i train the finish and the heel totally seperate. soon after i started with a prong and a tug this allowed me to tighten her up. the switch to e-collar took some time. after about three months im working with the ecollar and no leash with a decoy. alot of hours involved. hope this helps some.
Not really. But I do like the idea of him just getting the excersise and than sharpening it up later on. I also do the finish and heel seperate. Thanks
Something is missing in this somewhere.
I take it you're working on a competition heel, right?
What do you mean you've dropped the leash 50 times and he doesn't get it? He forges, moves off your leg, lags behind?
Then a nope and he trys again? He loses concentation? Or does he just wanders to do as he wishes?
I wish I was at that stage of a competition heel but not their yet.
Doesn't wander just if he is in front of me and I say fuss with the prey item he doesn't go around and sit just makes a half circle thing and sits but not at my side. We are not lined up the same way and he is still facing me but at my side. If that makes sense.
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