Dale Stoneburg wrote 12/02/2009 08:09 PM My 8 week old GSD and Bacterial Colitis #258484 - 12/02/2009 08:09 PM
Dale Stoneburg Webboard User Reg: 01-04-2008 Posts: 50 Loc: Eugene, Oregon Offline	Just got back from the vet because my GSD puppy had been having diarrhea. While she showed no signs of being dehydrated the stool sample came back with "cork" like bacteria indicating most likely bacterial colitis. So now shes on a few different antibiotics and whatnot. The vet was a bit hesitant to say what would cause this. She hasn't been near any dogs or fecal matter or anything other then her kennel and my yard, except for when we took her to the vet when she was 7.5 weeks for an exam. Any ideas on what would cause this? Or anyone have experience with this? \
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Connie Sutherland wrote 12/02/2009 08:18 PM Re: My 8 week old GSD and Bacterial Colitis [Re: Dale Stoneburg ] #258487 - 12/02/2009 08:18 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	How old is she? What meds is she on now? How bad was the diarrhea (pudding or water)? Was the bacteria described as "corkscrew"? Spirella, maybe, or Spirochetes?
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Dale Stoneburg wrote 12/02/2009 08:33 PM Re: My 8 week old GSD and Bacterial Colitis [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #258488 - 12/02/2009 08:33 PM
Dale Stoneburg Webboard User Reg: 01-04-2008 Posts: 50 Loc: Eugene, Oregon Offline	Oh yes sorry it was described as corkscrew and Spirochetes sounds very familiar. She is on clavamox and metronidazole as well as bene-bac. The diarrhea was always pudding like and never water-ish. She was having a hard time holding her bowel movements and would frequently go in the crate at night even though I would get up every three to four hours to take her out. You are super fast on responding Connie, thanks! \
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Connie Sutherland wrote 12/02/2009 09:49 PM Re: My 8 week old GSD and Bacterial Colitis [Re: Dale Stoneburg ] #258495 - 12/02/2009 09:49 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: Dale Stoneburg Oh yes sorry it was described as corkscrew and Spirochetes sounds very familiar. She is on clavamox and metronidazole as well as bene-bac. The diarrhea was always pudding like and never water-ish. She was having a hard time holding her bowel movements and would frequently go in the crate at night even though I would get up every three to four hours to take her out. You are super fast on responding Connie, thanks! Which type is it? Do you have the paperwork? Dale, I hope that you will be diligent about following up. Just as with UTIs, too many vets forget to stress the importance of a re-check at the end of the med protocol. Some material for you: http://jcm.asm.org/cgi/content/full/36/8/2264 The poor dog. A potty-trained dog will try so hard to hold it and it just can't be done with something like this.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 12/02/2009 09:50 PM Re: My 8 week old GSD and Bacterial Colitis [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #258496 - 12/02/2009 09:50 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	What's Bene-Bac? Probiotics?
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Elaine Haynes wrote 12/03/2009 02:41 AM Re: My 8 week old GSD and Bacterial Colitis [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #258508 - 12/03/2009 02:41 AM
Elaine Haynes Webboard User Reg: 08-16-2005 Posts: 1221 Loc: Offline	Quote: Connie Sutherland What's Bene-Bac? Probiotics? http://www.drsfostersmith.com/product/prod_display.cfm?c=3307+106+1231&pcatid=1231 (information about Bene-Bac). "A dog wags his tail with his heart." Max Buxbaum
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Dale Stoneburg wrote 12/14/2009 01:50 PM Re: My 8 week old GSD and Bacterial Colitis [Re: Elaine Haynes ] #259459 - 12/14/2009 01:50 PM
Dale Stoneburg Webboard User Reg: 01-04-2008 Posts: 50 Loc: Eugene, Oregon Offline	Argh, this is driving me crazy. The meds she was on took care of her stool for about a day, then it reverted right back to how it was. She just finished her meds two days ago and is having uncontrollable diarrhea. I take her out every three hours at night, and every 1.5-2 hours during the day and she still ends up going in the crate a few times a day. She ultimately gets the diarrhea all over her. So from this point, how many times can I give a puppy a bath without doing more harm then good. Currently I am feeding her chicken soup for the large breed puppy with some water mixed in ( Kind of worried about dehydration , a tblsp of canned pumpkin. Any ideas, I just called and left the vet a message so I am waiting to hear from him for his next plan of action. I do put a lot of value on the information you guys offer so I am up for any ideas. \
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Niomi Smith wrote 12/14/2009 01:55 PM Re: My 8 week old GSD and Bacterial Colitis [Re: Dale Stoneburg ] #259461 - 12/14/2009 01:55 PM
Niomi Smith Webboard User Reg: 04-20-2009 Posts: 786 Loc: Whitehorse, Yukon Offline	I'm sure someone else with a bit more experience with these situations will chime in but, have you tried the bland rice and chicken diet with the pumpkin to ease her gut? Have you tried this in conjunction with the meds? By itself?
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Connie Sutherland wrote 12/14/2009 01:58 PM Re: My 8 week old GSD and Bacterial Colitis [Re: Dale Stoneburg ] #259462 - 12/14/2009 01:58 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline
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Connie Sutherland wrote 12/14/2009 02:00 PM Re: My 8 week old GSD and Bacterial Colitis [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #259463 - 12/14/2009 02:00 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	I am with Niomi, but with a growing puppy, that affects how long it's safe to give the bland diet without calcium. (Regardless of cause, this is one inflamed gut, so while the bland diet cannot "treat" bacteria, it can help to calm the inflammation.)
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