Sharon Empson wrote 01/30/2010 07:22 PM liver issues in dogs #263846 - 01/30/2010 07:22 PM
Sharon Empson Webboard User Reg: 08-27-2007 Posts: 1197 Loc: Offline	My Cody will be coming home tomorrow morning I believe and I realize the vet will have recommendations for me, but I was wondering if any of you have faced liver problems (high count) and if you found natural ways to bring it down, say in foods, supplements etc. Thanks Sharon Sharon Empson
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Lynne Barrows wrote 01/30/2010 07:24 PM Re: liver issues in dogs [Re: Sharon Empson ] #263847 - 01/30/2010 07:24 PM
Lynne Barrows Webboard User Reg: 09-22-2007 Posts: 2531 Loc: S. Florida Offline	I don't have anything to offer here, but I am so glad to hear that he'll be coming home, Sharon. He's one tough little guy!
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Connie Sutherland wrote 01/30/2010 07:36 PM Re: liver issues in dogs [Re: Sharon Empson ] #263849 - 01/30/2010 07:36 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: Sharon Empson My Cody will be coming home tomorrow morning I believe and I realize the vet will have recommendations for me, but I was wondering if any of you have faced liver problems (high count) and if you found natural ways to bring it down, say in foods, supplements etc. Thanks Sharon Sharon, please remind us whether you feed raw or commercial. I do have material saved for nutritional support for dogs with liver damage or liver disease, as well as the use of the supplements milk thistle and SAM-e (S-adenosylmethionine). And I want to add: What wonderful news!
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Melissa Thom wrote 01/30/2010 07:40 PM Re: liver issues in dogs [Re: Lynne Barrows ] #263850 - 01/30/2010 07:40 PM
Melissa Thom Webboard User Reg: 12-04-2007 Posts: 2781 Loc: Upper Left hand corner, USA Offline	I'm so glad he's coming home. If he were a person like my *ahem* alcohol loving relatives they suggest Milk thistle, Beef liver, and artichoke. I have no idea if milk thistle and artichoke function the same way for dogs as people but the beef liver sounds like a winner. At least all three are common ingredients in liver support supplements for dogs.
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Connie Sutherland wrote 01/30/2010 07:42 PM Re: liver issues in dogs [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #263851 - 01/30/2010 07:42 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	I forgot to say that unless your vet happens to have a specialty in something like nutrition, you will very likely receive outdated recommendations like "low-protein" diets instead of the more appropriate (IMO) low-ammonia-producing diet. I'm not a health professional, however.
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Sharon Empson wrote 01/30/2010 07:48 PM Re: liver issues in dogs [Re: Connie Sutherland ] #263853 - 01/30/2010 07:48 PM
Sharon Empson Webboard User Reg: 08-27-2007 Posts: 1197 Loc: Offline	Connie: that is why I am asking for support. My regular vet is a holistic vet, I am not sure what the doctors I have for cody are like.( the are at a specialist hospital) They didn't have too much of a heart attack when I told them he is raw fed. They said that right now because of so much hemmoraging the lining on his colon is very depleated. So they are afraid of any bacteria at all, even a little. So I have prepared boiled chicken breast with some rice. But I would love all the info you can give me. I want to do the best for him. My husband and I are glad he is coming home but we are a little afraid, we hope we can take care of him correctly, so that is why we are getting all the info we can. Thanks sharon Sharon Empson
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Melissa Thom wrote 01/30/2010 08:14 PM Re: liver issues in dogs [Re: Sharon Empson ] #263857 - 01/30/2010 08:14 PM
Melissa Thom Webboard User Reg: 12-04-2007 Posts: 2781 Loc: Upper Left hand corner, USA Offline	Is there a reason you wouldn't follow up with your regular vet?
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Connie Sutherland wrote 01/30/2010 08:22 PM Re: liver issues in dogs [Re: Sharon Empson ] #263859 - 01/30/2010 08:22 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: sharon empson Connie: that is why I am asking for support. My regular vet is a holistic vet, I am not sure what the doctors I have for cody are like.( the are at a specialist hospital) They didn't have too much of a heart attack when I told them he is raw fed. They said that right now because of so much hemmoraging the lining on his colon is very depleated. So they are afraid of any bacteria at all, even a little. So I have prepared boiled chicken breast with some rice. But I would love all the info you can give me. I want to do the best for him. My husband and I are glad he is coming home but we are a little afraid, we hope we can take care of him correctly, so that is why we are getting all the info we can. Thanks sharon The bacterial overload actually is an issue, and the best of the authoritative (IMO) voices online are going to give ingredients for cooked low-ammonia-producing diets. Everything I have ever read has convinced me that a home-cooked diet is the way to go with a liver in distress, if at all possible. Do you have eggs and no-salt-added cottage cheese? These and fish oil and maybe pumpkin and oats and cooked white chicken are the good basic ingredients I recall. The whole carbs are because soluble fiber (like in barley, pumpkin, oats, etc.) helps absorb ammonia and sweep it on through to the waste process (similarly to the way that they can relieve the human's bloodstream of "bad" cholesterol). I can find the material saved tonight, OK? eta Obviously, there is calcium supplementation involved in a home-cooked diet. The egg shells will work, and I can give you the amount-per-pound translated into teaspoons of crushed eggshell. Edited by Connie Sutherland (01/30/2010 08:25 PM) Edit reason: eta
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Connie Sutherland wrote 01/30/2010 08:35 PM Re: liver issues in dogs [Re: Sharon Empson ] #263862 - 01/30/2010 08:35 PM
Connie Sutherland Moderator Reg: 07-13-2005 Posts: 31571 Loc: North-Central coast of California Offline	Quote: Sharon Empson My regular vet is a holistic vet, I am not sure what the doctors I have for cody are like.  Quote: Melissa Thom Is there a reason you wouldn't follow up with your regular vet? Even better!
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Sharon Empson wrote 01/30/2010 11:43 PM Re: liver issues in dogs [Re: Melissa Thom ] #263872 - 01/30/2010 11:43 PM
Sharon Empson Webboard User Reg: 08-27-2007 Posts: 1197 Loc: Offline	no, i do not know what they want me to do, my regular vet said they may want me to follow up with them. so i wait.... Sharon Empson
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