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Hi all,
My girlfriends mom went to a farmers market and bought us two bags with 3 chicken carcass' in each for only $2 a bag! There is a lot of bone with a good amount of muscle and organs still attached... how does this factor into the diet?
I know they need 2-3% of their body weight a day as a guide line to start from. the Raw Dog Food (by Carina Beth MacDonald) say to use 50% RMB, 20% Muscle meat, 5-10% organ meet and the rest in "glop". I think if anything it might be short on the muscle ratio, so could i supplement egg or other muscle meet?
Thanks for any help... I'm a really newbie at this.
Reg: 12-23-2008
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Thanks,
my dogs are back on (for good this time) raw from being off it for a while. so the book said to introduce new items slowly for their stomachs and ability to trouble shoot if something doesn't agree. They are about a week on and I'm starting to introduce the glop one ingredient at a time.
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Thanks a lot for your help Micheal,
all Chicken backs, as well as some other chicken parts and i started adding a bit of carrot and carrot tops. I know they handle fish oil well cause i put that on their kibble so i add a bit of that every day at one meal. I have a lot of random mostly green vegetables mushed up and in the freezer to start adding.
There poops have been really small and well formed which i know is expected if things are going well.
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Good for your dogs that you switched them back to raw. I would add Vit E (if you arn't already) with the oil for them to process the omegas so as not to depleat the small E supply that their body manufactures. Also, easy on the carrots, they have alot of sugar in them.
Good deal on the chicken frames. Just start to add some organ meat & muscle meat to them to balance out the meals. Do it slowly like you are to ease them back into it. Glad that they are doing well back on it. You might also give them some probiotics & or yogert while transitioning them back on raw to help with the digestion. I. personally, still feed both to my dogs 1x daily.
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Thanks Anne,
I have heard of Vit E but i haven't added yet... i'll grab some asap. Yeah i had heard to take it easy with the carrots due to the high GI aspect, they are now being eased onto celery and the next is broccoli. is any kind of plain yogurt suitable? i know some brag more about probiotics and such.
Thanks a lot everyone. I don't know that i would have the courage to try this without the on-line mentoring.
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The vit E usually comes in 400 I.U. gel caps. 1 is usually enough for most dogs unless you have a very large dog. I give 1 cap each day to my 65 & 78 lb dogs. Once in a while I toss in an extra one. If I had a 100lb + dog, I'd probably give 2 a day. I would start that right away if you are supplimenting with the salmon oil (omegas) You can get them just about anywhere that sell vitamins.
For yogert, you want to use one that has no sugar added & is as low as possible in salt content. I don't know what brands you have in your area. I use a greek yogert that has live active cultures & probiotics, with no preservatives, no added sugar & minimal salt. But I also give multi-probiotic caps. Some people use a kiefer. I can't find that, not flavored, here.
The carrots have alot of sugar & sugar can be cancer promoting in dogs. I also feed canned veggies that are 'no salt added' if I don't have any fresh. Steaming or grating breaks down the cellular wall so that the dogs can absorb the nutrients.
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No problem finding Greek anything near me lol... I'll take a look at the local grocery store and i will cut out the carrots completely than or at least add them in very small amounts to the glop when they are fully adapted to the diet.
I'm assuming i can find the Vit E at the local big bin drug store?
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